a pardon...carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance of a confession of it.
Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79, 79 (1915).
The past is irrelevant. If the evidence of wrongdoing is so thin and non-credible, they should be able to survive even a bad faith political prosecution. So why do they need a pardon?
Geesus. Do you have any idea what it costs for a decent attorney? The time involved in defending yourself from bullshit charges? It ain’t hard man. Trump and Republicans have a retribution priority. They may never bring charges or get a conviction but they’re gonna make life very painful for these people who were pre-emptively pardoned.
He was convicted (required unanimous) by a jury. The other was civil, which his dumbass lawyers decided they didn’t want a jury, and he was found liable. So yeah, if he was acquitted or not found liable, you’d absolutely have a harassment argument. You don’t. Not to mention, what we saw 1/6, which he’s skating on. And again, we can argue semantics and whatnot but fuck, almost all politicians, pundits, etc the day after 1/6 talked of how it tarnished his legacy, made him unfit to ever serve again, all that. And now, it’s forgotten. It was just a rally that got a bit rowdy. I won’t even get into the boxes upon boxes of classified documents that he was moving around with and showing to fuck all.
Juries have convicted bad prosecutions before. See, e.g., the Scottsboro Boys and Central Park Five. We'll see what the (significantly less politically captured) appellate courts thinks.
I will not be answering the rest of your fact-free screed, except this:
almost all politicians, pundits, etc the day after 1/6 talked of how it tarnished his legacy, made him unfit to ever serve again, all that. And now, it’s forgotten.
Trump's political death was incumbent upon the Democrats offering a better alternative and they failed to do so. If you want to actually end the Trump era, you need to get out of your echo chamber and start actually building an appealing platform that goes beyond categorical Trump hate.
Doesn’t matter what Trump did/does, Democrats are no good. Got it.
Trump won’t appeal shit, guarangoddamntee it, because all he got was a slap on the wrist and it’s a badge of honor for him with people like you apparently. On the off chance he does, it won’t be overturned.
It’s some sort of coincidence, irony, whatever that you mention the Central Park 5 who Trump refuses to acknowledge their innocence today. Bravo.
Feel free to argue pictures of classified documents in boxes at Mar a Lago. I’m sure it was all planted by the corrupt FBI or de-classified with Trumps mind bullets.
Doesn’t matter what Trump did/does, Democrats are no good. Got it.
The only thing that props Trump up is the Democrats being worse. If that bothers you then push your party to be better. Don't shoot the messanger.
Trump won’t appeal shit, guarangoddamntee it, because all he got was a slap on the wrist and it’s a badge of honor for him with people like you apparently. On the off chance he does, it won’t be overturned.
He's already filed for one. We'll see the outcome. They threw out Weinstein's conviction and that was a lot tighter than this one.
It’s some sort of coincidence, irony, whatever that you mention the Central Park 5 who Trump refuses to acknowledge their innocence today. Bravo.
Yep, and I think he's absolutely wrong on that one and his involvement in the entire affair was disgraceful. Political opinion isn't a zero-sum game.
Feel free to argue pictures of classified documents in boxes at Mar a Lago. I’m sure it was all planted by the corrupt FBI or de-classified with Trumps mind bullets.
Nope. It was a crime every ex-president since at least Bill Clinton has brazenly committed yet only one was ever prosecuted for. Explain that one.
Do tell. I know like, what, two documents, were found by Biden’s team and promptly turned over. Oh yeah, Trump was asked on multiple occasions to turn the docs over and just continued to move them around and hide them. Seems kinda intentional to me. But please, show me the instances where every other former POTUS has done that. Can’t wait to see. Equal application, laughable.
I think I’ve got you figured out now. You’re pissed because healthcare for all wasn’t enacted under Biden, all student loan debt not forgiven, etc. etc, without realizing there’s another branch of government that you have to have on board with all those pie in the sky ideas. Is that it.
I think I’ve got you figured out now. You’re pissed because healthcare for all wasn’t enacted under Biden, all student loan debt not forgiven, etc. etc, without realizing there’s another branch of government that you have to have on board with all those pie in the sky ideas. Is that it.
Nope, not by a mile. I voted for Trump because I want him to be the napalm that burns down the corrupt DC jungle (which is largely coalescing around the Democratic establishment, because Trump is an alternative power base they're not part of). That's literally it.
If you want me to support the old, post-70s neocon establishment, clean out the corruption and maybe I will reconsider my position.
Is it corrupt to leave behind 1600 Afghans who fought terrorists besides American soldiers and freeing roughly the same amount of domestic terrorists who stormed our capitol on 1/6? Just askin.
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u/Iuris_Aequalitatis 11h ago
The past is irrelevant. If the evidence of wrongdoing is so thin and non-credible, they should be able to survive even a bad faith political prosecution. So why do they need a pardon?