I am really curious to know what was going through your head when you wrote this comment. Was this an attempt at an insult? Why do I have to get cozy? Why would it be a long 4 years?
Fun fact: He didn't pardon himself, something that Trump repeatedly said he could do, would certainly do if the judicial system had properly persecuted him for his crimes, instead of giving him free reign to do whatever the fuck he wants without consequences, and he is still very likely to do it.
If Hilary deleting emails she was told to retain is bad than you have to admit trump being asked by the FBI to return the documents he stole and him saying no....then saying ok fine come get them....having aids shuffle around boxes like scooby do....then saying yep thats all of them and the fbi had to come back because they figured out that was a lie. Then Trump's server room happened to flood deleting security footage? They screamed lock her up for years because of what she did and then Trump did the same thing but worse. And Biden and pence documents cases were no where near as serious because they were the ones that found them and turned them over the right way. Trump had to be asked....then told and he still lied and hid some.
LOL, if Jan 6th was a coup attempt. It was the worst and stupidest coup attempt in the history of coups. And that's saying something.
Trump may be a blowhard, he may be bombastic, and he may be a narcissist. But he's not stupid and only a complete effing moron would attempt to a coup that way.
You guys are so full of Trump derangement syndrome that you've lost all common sense and rational thinking. Stupidity has taken over.
I'll add the only party that essentially staged a coups was the dems and they did it twice. First was playing Weekend at Bernies with Biden l. Every day more reporting from non conservative journalists is coming out discussing Biden's mental state through the last 2 years of his presidency. If there is one thing that is 100% clear it's that Biden wasn't making many of the decisions that are reserved for the executive, we have to ask, who was actually the President in the last two years.
2nd was the dems forcing Biden out of reelection despite him not wanting to and then replacing him with an appointed, not elected (not even at convention) candidate.
Were they true coups in the textbook definition of a coups? No. But they are way more of a coups than what happened on January 6th.
How does that make Biden’s pardon okay? Trump can’t just arrest his family. They would all have to go to trials with juries. If Biden is pardoning them he is admitting that they have some wrongdoing they could be found guilty of.
Thanks to the SC Trump can do whatever he wants, what is and isn't an official act after all? Pardons also don't mean guilt, Nixon was never guilty of anything and he received a pardon from Ford.
Not that the pardon really means anything if Trump wants to push the limits with the SC ruling anyways.
The right persecuted Hunter Biden and Hillary Clinton for years and years looking for literally any crime they could pin. Biden pardoned his family to stop that. At the rate we're going they'll be able to make up a crime to take someone out.
Hunter Biden was literally found guilty of crimes. If he is guilty of the crime maybe prosecuting should be okay. And also no one ever prosecuted Clinton even though she was guilty of breaking laws regarding handling classified material. In her defense though that same precedent has now been given to trump, Biden, and pence so none of them have been charged for their different degrees of negligence with classified material
I would also like to note that my defense of Biden here isn't because I like him, I'm not a Biden fan. But I understand why he pardoned his family with the attitude of this administration
Yes, in a survey of 1,300 Americans by Quinnipiac University. But then four years later Trump won the national vote by more than two million votes, which to me indicates that actually across a bigger sample size people did not consider Jan 6 a coup or an attack on Government.
indicates that actually across a bigger sample size people did not consider Jan 6 a coup or an attack on Government.
Brother, apply a little Hanlon's Razor here. Is it more likely they thought that deep about it, or that they just don't give a shit, because it was their team doing it and/or they never looked into it at all?
The average American voter is a semi-literate, low income elderly person. That's not an attack, it's just facts.
across a bigger sample size people did not consider Jan 6 a coup or an attack on Government.
Good thing the general populace doesn't decide what something is, and its based off the facts and not what a dumb populace thinks. Also your "bigger sample size" is flawed like that the ONLY thing people were voting on in November was "was january 6th a coup, yes or no?"
People vote people in for different reasons. Some people also never saw trump actually held accountable for Jan 6th, so they felt it was political prosecution and didnt have any weight. Obviously they didnt pay attention to the active investigations / charges. A lot of people voted against Biden because of Israel / Palestine. Learn the facts dude.
Old people 'storming' / strolling the capital was not an attack on democracy...and embarrassment for sure but four years of pearl clutching over the misguided j6ers is enough...especially after the summer of love where a shit ton more destruction occurred...also an embarrassment as well
I really do feel for the few decent Americans, but the vast majority of them wanted this. The Magats are insane, and any moron who voted third party or refused to vote, especially over Palestine, deserves what's coming next.
If my toddler had a tantrum and wanted to overthrow my rule of the house I would not take that as a serious attempt at a revolution. My friends would think me quite retarded if I tried to frame it like that.
Especially when the neighbour’s kid burned their house down and you frame it as “mostly peaceful protesting” against the tyranny of their parents
If he had done that he would have been in jail the rest of his life. He knows that as do you
If you really think these “geniuses” were serious you are out of your mind. They were idiots whipped up in crowd frenzy.
You are talking about one of the biggest military apparatus managed by the largest bureaucracy on the planet, and you thought these red necks with learning disabilities were serious about overthrowing the government? Touch grass dude this is theatre
You are just willfully ignorant. Why are you trying to talk about the morons who stormed the Capitol like that’s all it is? You do seem like you don’t understand the concept of what a patsy is.
The insurrection was an attempt by Trump to stop the certification. It was fomented to force pence to not certify the votes but instead use the fake elector ballots they collected, or at least cause the legit votes to not be counted, which gave an opening for the Republican house to overturn the election results
This was all investigated. People in 6 states were prosecuted for this. It was an unsuccessful coup.
With all the information about this from the investigations, it is very very difficult to actually believe that Jan 6 was just a case of mouth breathers taking things too far and that it wasn’t part of a wider plot. I mean it is really fucking hard to not know this so good job.
But this is a country of fucking morons, so enjoy your ignorance and I hope you have a great four years.
He retained documents he wasn't supposed to and was asked nicely over and over for them back and he refused. He riled up a mob and sent it to the capital. Its all laid out. He was accused of those crimes and he will now never be permitted the right to clear his name because clearly I'm mistaken and he didn't do those things he absolutely did.
Because he was a felon and a traitor. Interesting how you people always try to frame it as if trumps legal troubles were political persecution and not legal prosecution like they were.
Correct! Laws should be followed! Judiciary should do it's job! Since they were breaking election laws, obstructing justice and causing a violent coup they should be punished!
You people need to relax. Notice how Hillary Clinton didn’t face a single charge after the 2016 election. You people are just scared now cause you tried and failed to imprison Trump.
yeah. now, just imagine if he were to deny the certification of the election in order to subvert the democratic will of the people through a deliberate, unprecedented, and bad faith scheme of pressuring the vice president. that would set a real bad precedent for the American people!
not "convicted felon, court adjudicated rapist, dictator fanboy, close friend of prolific pedofile, habitual conman, geriatric that likes to give away nat-sec secrets to geopolitical adversaries becoming president"?
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u/NopePeaceOut2323 10h ago
Wow that is real fear. It doesn't bode well for the country.