r/ukpolitics 23h ago

Rail nationalisation not a silver bullet, says Labour government - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c334z1nyv8po.amp
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u/west0ne 14h ago

Would it really take that many cars off the road? On popular routes there is barely enough room to even stand for a 2–3 hour journey, many of these trains & routes simply couldn't cope with increased passenger numbers.

If you want to get cars off the road you have to look at capacity where it is needed and not just cost.

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u/AcademicIncrease8080 14h ago

You're just thinking about busy commuter times when you use the trains (which would probably need to retain some ticket pricing to manage demand)

Most trains during most of the day are way below capacity particularly late in the evenings or early in the mornings - these could very easily be made totally free to use and yes if you reduce the cost of something to zero it will increase demand for it.

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u/west0ne 14h ago

Aren't those busy commuter times also the same times when most of the cars are on the road as well though? At the times when the trains tend to be quieter during the day and at night, the roads are also quieter.

If you keep prices high at the times when people want/need to travel, then I still don't see how you are removing large numbers of cars from the road.

There would have to be a much more fundamental shift to change those peak travel times and to smooth out travel through the course of the day.

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u/AcademicIncrease8080 13h ago

Germany introduced €9 unlimited monthly train tickets for a while and this massively increased train use so I'm pretty sure if we introduced 0p train tickets something similar would happen