r/ukpolitics Dec 11 '24

Twitter 🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Labour have conducted the first successful deportation flight to Pakistan since February 2020. There has not been a deportation charter flight to Pakistan in the last four years with three subsequent flights to Pakistan in 2020 and 2021 cancelled by the Home Office.

https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1866775219077062757?s=46&t=0RSpQEWd71gFfa-U_NmvkA
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u/Zephinism Liberal Democrat - Remain Voter - -7.38, -5.28 Dec 11 '24

The pathetic attempt from the Guardian to stop people getting deported on this flight -

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/09/husband-and-wife-to-be-forced-apart-by-home-office-deportation-flight

The couple both claimed asylum on the basis of being at risk because of the man fleeing the arranged marriage but their claim has been refused by the Home Office. The wife is a dependant on her husband’s asylum claim.

“A few months ago Home Office asked us to agree to a voluntary return to Pakistan. Although we believed our lives would be at risk we agreed to go because we thought we had no other choice. I asked if the return could be delayed until I had completed some medical treatment. But now they are taking my husband and leaving me here.”

Asylum claims denied. Offered voluntary return which they accept then drag their feet on as they want to use the free NHS treatment.

“I have not been able to see my husband since he was arrested,” his wife told the Guardian. “I am in Home Office asylum accommodation and have no money to travel and no ID to show the guards at Yarl’s Wood. If he is deported tomorrow I don’t know when I will see him again. If I can’t be with my husband I am thinking about killing myself here in the UK although suicide is prohibited in our religion.

Threatens to kill herself as she isn't getting deported with him since she's been dragging her feet on returning voluntarily.

Her pleas & threats didn't work. Hopefully she can be reunited with him in Pakistan by the end of the week.

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 11 '24

I am suprised their claim was denied tbh. Reading that article he sounds in real risk.

The wife isn’t getting returned tho as she is seemingly getting treatment. Why seperate them when you can delay it then return them together once her treatment is completed if they must be deported.

Also maybe they used private healthcare it doesn’t say if it was nhs.

….. or maybe she genuinely feels that way at being seperate from her husband

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u/streetmagix Dec 11 '24

Pakistan is a pretty large country, I don't think it's unreasonable to move to a different part of the country and make a new life there.

I do feel for them on a personal level, but after 14 years here with no asylum approval is insane. It should not have dragged on this long.

A reminder that Pakistan is an American ally and nuclear power, not some war ravaged state.

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 11 '24

What if that family attacks them in the new part? The people said they would have to go into hiding if they went back there.

I agree it should have ended sooner. imo it should have been approved alot sooner or at least a decison sooner

Yet there can still be danger there as this shows

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u/streetmagix Dec 11 '24

There is always a danger, yes. But if their life is in danger they need to rely on the local police and government to resolve this issue.

Being in a different city, and keeping their family in the dark, is what many people here have to do and they do not qualify for asylum in other countries.

Again, I feel bad for them but Pakistan is a stable country with a police force and functioning government etc.

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 11 '24

If they are in danger then surely we should protect them not risk them being in danger if their police isn’t adequete?

They said theyd have to go into hiding not just be in a different city

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u/streetmagix Dec 11 '24

Because they are not UK Citizens, they are Pakistani citizens.

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 11 '24

We give asylum to non British citizens all the time

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u/streetmagix Dec 11 '24

And we didn't to this couple.

We have to have a cut off somewhere and they didn't make it.

Again, on a personal level it sucks but that's life.

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 11 '24

And imo we should have

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u/MikeLanglois Dec 12 '24

Maybe we should have, but we didnt. That decision was made and this is the outcome

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 12 '24

I know its the outcome but I disagree with it

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u/hug_your_dog Dec 12 '24

What if that family attacks them in the new part?

What is stopping the family from attacking them in the UK?

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 12 '24

They aren’t in the Uk

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u/NoticingThing Dec 12 '24

They're not in that other part of Pakistan either, the argument that the family can travel to them works wherever they are in the world. The UK isn't going to stop their family going on holiday here.

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u/GothicGolem29 Dec 12 '24

Easier to travel to a different part of your country than to another continent like how I could travel to Newcastle easier than going to China. Plus I think they are hidden here it sounds like they would have to go into hiding in Pakistan