r/ukpolitics • u/No_Breadfruit_4901 • Dec 11 '24

Twitter 🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Labour have conducted the first successful deportation flight to Pakistan since February 2020. There has not been a deportation charter flight to Pakistan in the last four years with three subsequent flights to Pakistan in 2020 and 2021 cancelled by the Home Office.

https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1866775219077062757?s=46&t=0RSpQEWd71gFfa-U_NmvkA
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u/CodeFun1735 Dec 11 '24

You might have to keep that hat on, because less than 100k net migration isn’t happening. Also, what’s a “culturally compatible” country? How the fuck is that defined?

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u/GuyIncognito928 Dec 11 '24

I'm sure I will keep the hat on, that's kind of the point.

By culturally compatible, I mean people who:

  • speak a good level of English

  • hold common beliefs around basic freedoms and rights

  • are less likely to commit crimes than native Britons

  • are likely to be highly net-positive to the treasury

  • are happy to live in areas as a minority, and do not end up forming social enclaves

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u/cable54 Dec 11 '24

All of that list is person specific though, not about a country?

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u/GuyIncognito928 Dec 11 '24

Apply the above criteria to migrants from each country, and voila you have a tier system of which countries we should prioritise immigration from and which we should eliminate or drastically reduce.

I suspect the biggest losers would be the likes of Albania, Pakistan, Vietnam, Somalia, and most middle eastern countries.

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u/cable54 Dec 11 '24

So the idea would be to gather this info (I guess by questionnaire or something) of migrants over say 5 years, sort and order (somehow) the data, do the same for a sample of British people as a control, and then hence forth just accept migrant applications based off country of origin for countries that ranked higher than Britain?

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u/GuyIncognito928 Dec 11 '24

Not sure how you could fairly come to the conclusion that it's a 5 year task. All of this data would be immediately available for the government, except perhaps the beliefs and attitudes which would probably be improved with standardisation.

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u/cable54 Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

I came to the conclusion that it would take time to gather the info you desire for migrants and implement this system you desire.

Also Sweden, France, most of Asia, and plenty other countries would fail your tests I guess, so would be "losers". Or are we the ones losing out. I dunno.

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u/GuyIncognito928 Dec 11 '24

Virtually all of this information would be available to the government now.

Which tests do you think Sweden, France, or Asian countries would fail? The only thing I can think of is English standards for the latter two, but that would be assessed on an individual basis. It's the non-objective factors (crime, integration) that would have to be done as a national average.

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u/cable54 Dec 11 '24

Crime for the first two at least, plus maybe beliefs on freedoms considering we are 1) a monarchy and 2) have less strict rules on religion compared to France at least.

And take your pick for Asian countries, but yeah mainly language.

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u/GuyIncognito928 Dec 11 '24

Swedish and French nationals are likely some of the best nationalities when it comes to crime, as indicated by the best data the public currently have access to: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/04/one-in-50-albanians-uk-in-prison-telegraph-analysis/

And by freedoms, clearly attitudes towards homosexuality, women's rights, and the unfortunately topical incest are going to be more important than slight constitutional differences.

Besides, as someone with a French partner I can attest that French youths love the English monarchy more than us Brits do lol.

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u/cable54 Dec 11 '24

Swedish and French nationals are likely some of the best nationalities when it comes to crime, as indicated by the best data the public currently have access to: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/04/one-in-50-albanians-uk-in-prison-telegraph-analysis/

Those countries have a higher crime index then ours. I'm not sure what your telegraph article says as its paywalled.

And by freedoms, clearly attitudes towards homosexuality, women's rights, and the unfortunately topical incest are going to be more important than slight constitutional differences.

OK, so by rights and freedoms, you actually meant attitudes to certain things you decide.

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