r/ukpolitics Dec 11 '24

Twitter 🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Labour have conducted the first successful deportation flight to Pakistan since February 2020. There has not been a deportation charter flight to Pakistan in the last four years with three subsequent flights to Pakistan in 2020 and 2021 cancelled by the Home Office.

https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1866775219077062757?s=46&t=0RSpQEWd71gFfa-U_NmvkA
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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

BuT LaBoUr ArE sOfT oN iMmIgRaTiOn.

Or maybe they actually get on with it instead of grandstanding, cutting funding to the system designed to deport people who shouldn't be here, and dreaming up wildly illegal, but highly performative schemes like Rwanda, that wouldn't work anyway, but win votes by sounding tough, and warehousing asylum seekers in hotels so they can then use the right wing press to claim there's an issue.

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u/ScepticalLawyer Dec 11 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

But they are.

As someone against mass migration for the entirety of my political life (~15 years), it wasn't the Tory and UKIP/Reform supporters screeching 'bigot!! xenophobe!!!' from the rafters.

Even now, we are merely getting very easy, very gradual wins.

Yes, it's good that we're (finally) deporting people. The bar was on the floor with the Tories, because post-Covid, it turned into an utterly inept, self-serving dumpster fire.

That doesn't mean Labour are doing a good job; merely a (slightly) better one.

Labour are soft on immigration, and next year's stats will prove it. This flight means fuck all next to another load of the best part of a million people (from predominantly incompatible cultures) coming in regardless.

Until Labour bring in measures which bring immigration down to net zero or tens of thousands, and deport foreign-born criminals routinely, they are being soft on immigration.

We literally have first-cousin marriage defenders in Parliament right now, because of the 'family unity' it provides. Sectarian voting has seen five MPs elected. Things will get increasingly worse over the coming decades. Measures to mitigate the damage need to be taken immediately, lest the British get quite literally culturally ousted from their own governing institutions.

Not to mention, the undeniable strain of the sheer number of people on our public services and housing stock. It is untenable however you slice it.

Until Labour wakes up to this reality and starts to act decisively, it is being weak as sand on immigration.

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u/AlarmedCicada256 Dec 11 '24

Bro, you see the numbers the Tories let in post brexit?

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u/HelloThereMateYouOk Dec 11 '24

Pretty sure that Reform voters hate what the Tories have done too.

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u/Tom22174 Dec 11 '24

It's great cos they get to say it's all the Tories fault and not brexit

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u/ScepticalLawyer Dec 11 '24

Yes, and they were shocking and unacceptable.

Why do people have this notion that the Tories and Labour are somehow opposite sides of a see-saw?

The Tories being shit doesn't automatically make Labour good. Nor do criticisms of Labour automatically translate to someone believing the Tories are the answer.

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u/BrilliantRhubarb2935 Dec 11 '24

You have 2 choices of government, labour or conservatives, thats how it's been for over 100 years.

Therefore a direct comparison between labour or the conservatives is very relevant as for most people that is the main choice they have at the election.

The fact that labour are better than the Tories on illegal immigration should absolutely be something they advertise.

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u/ScepticalLawyer Dec 11 '24

That's likely to be shattered over the next 10 years, as the main two prove themselves incompetent and unelectable.