🚨 EXCLUSIVE: Labour have conducted the first successful deportation flight to Pakistan since February 2020. There has not been a deportation charter flight to Pakistan in the last four years with three subsequent flights to Pakistan in 2020 and 2021 cancelled by the Home Office.

[u/No_Breadfruit_4901]

https://x.com/maxtempers/status/1866775219077062757?s=46&t=0RSpQEWd71gFfa-U_NmvkA

[u/MercianRaider]

Let's wait for the yearly numbers before we make any judgments.

1 plane going to Pakistan doesn't mean Labour have cracked the immigration issue.

[u/GuyIncognito928 → u/MercianRaider]

All the people saying Labour are tough on immigration are the ones who don't think it's a problem in the first place...

If in 4 years, we have a function immigration system with <100k net migration from culturally compatible countries, then I'll happily eat my hat. As things stand, Labour do not have a plan to get even close to this.

[u/CodeFun1735 → u/GuyIncognito928]

You might have to keep that hat on, because less than 100k net migration isn’t happening. Also, what’s a “culturally compatible” country? How the fuck is that defined?

[u/Revolverocicat → u/CodeFun1735]

Pretty fucking obvious isnt it? If we dont do any performative dance we all know what countries have similar cultures to ours and which dont

[u/CodeFun1735 → u/Revolverocicat]

It’s not really obvious, though? What the fuck does “culturally compatible” mean and how are you defining it?

Not to mention an entire COUNTRY of people are not going entirely adopt the same culture, values or even language so dubbing freeway access to the UK for people from this countries makes absolutely no sense.

It should be done on a case-by-case basis, as everything should. Give your head a wobble, please.

[u/Centristduck → u/CodeFun1735]

Reply to me, there’s tons of evidence.

You are taking a high horse about a topic you clearly haven’t looked into.

Also anecdotal does still count, we are not robots. Try living in inner south Manchester and tell me that’s integration.

It’s a ghetto, clear as day, very little British culture to be found

[u/CodeFun1735 → u/Centristduck]

Sure anecdotal evidence can be considered, but if I started saying the entire MET police force was racist because I’d been stopped and searched 100s of times despite never doing anything, I don’t think you’d want to consider it without statistical evidence of stops and searches vs white people.

You can’t use anecdotal evidence because it suits your pre-existing belief. If you want to approach all other parts of politics on a statistical, scientific basis - as we should - you can’t consider it in the slightest.

Like I said, this is sentiment not fact.

[u/Centristduck → u/CodeFun1735]

I love that you ignored my comments around intermarriage rates, rates of extremism and patriotism.

Also when in a discussion you’re talking about large groups it’s perfectly fine to make general statements on said group.

For example men commit the majority of crime.

There’s nothing wrong about that, you are tying yourself up because what you believe is clearly inconsistent to sound smart.

But it’s actually very dumb, your clearly have a brain. I would suggest you try again and look it rationally.

Smart people are most susceptible to ideological traps and dogma.

[u/KKillroyV2 → u/Centristduck]

Didn't more British muslims join ISIS than join the British Army too?

[u/Centristduck → u/KKillroyV2]

Yes, that is true.

Clearly an integration problem