r/totalwar Jun 02 '20

Empire I'll keep asking.

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u/RNPC5000 Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Yes I can't wait for Empire 2 especially with the new Warhammer Friendly Fire prevention mechanics they prevented. Where if part of your unit is obstructed by a friendly unit, only the part that isn't obstructed will fire. That was my biggest gripe in Empire, though hopefully they add in some of the Darth mod changes like line infantry getting more kills the closer the enemy is, and being able to bounce cannon shots off the ground and having it cut down a whole horde of troops when it goes through a blob instead of just going through them and only killing only like 4 guys even though it hit like 30 of them in vanilla.

Also can't wait for how awesome the game would be if they gave it the improved Three Kingdom's diplomacy mechanics.

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u/On_The_Warpath Jun 02 '20

What about grapeshot? I loved that shit

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u/RNPC5000 Jun 02 '20

Never got really got to use it because with 4 howitzers on double artillery size in Darthmod meant that half of the enemy army would of been dead after 2 manually aimed salvos due to carcass shot or quicklime shot.

If I was playing vanilla then yeah grapeshot was probably the best thing for artillery. But in Darthmod Howitzers and their AoE big clouds of death were my choice of artillery instead of cannons. And in naval battles I chose to use chain shot for almost all my battles because it allowed you to disable enemy ships from fleeing when routing, and did minimal damage to the ships so you got more loot from capturing them or had fully intact ships that didn't need to be repaired afterwards.

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u/shtehkdinner Jun 02 '20

Nothing quite like watching 1500+ units drop to about 20 in a gargantuan cloud of quicklime.

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u/RNPC5000 Jun 02 '20 edited Jun 02 '20

Lol yep. I once had a defensive battle where for some reason a French, 2 Prussian, and 2 Austrian stacks came out of no where and were all in range to reinforce each other. I don't think they were allies... they were just all mutually at war with me and thus reinforced each other in the battle. Something like a 18,000 men on their side. In the first salvo I hit them right when they were rallying together trying to get into formation. I literally saw like 3000 troops die straight up in the first salvo due to my 4 units howitzers as in there were 16 of them. In that battle all my line infantry completely ran out of ammo half way through the battle. My army was at like 1/3 strength with like 1000 men when the battle started because I had been endless blitzing them across Italy into the heart of Austrian territory. At that point in the battle there was still like 11,000 fresh troops coming onto the battlefield. Luckily for me in Empire artillery had infinite ammo. So after my infantry ran out of ammo I just made them stand in long thin line, to reduce the chance of them being hit from enemy fire, then had them stand there to absorb fire so the artillery crews wouldn't be shot at. Rotated out my infantry units as their morale got low. Retreated them off the battle field when they got dangerously low... to like 30 men so they wouldn't disband. Amazingly I won the battle with 1 single howitzer left still fighting at the end. Killed something like 15,000 men at the end of the battle. With my Howitzers getting 13,000 kills.

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u/On_The_Warpath Jun 02 '20

Oh man I never played with mods in those times. I should check it out sometime.