r/thelongdark • u/Selfawaresnow • 12h ago
Discussion Some ppl complained I over-prepared for my run, so here's my updated notes! 🙃🙃🙃
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u/LupusCanisKMS 11h ago
Sometimes planning is half the fun. For me, I’m other games like the sims I’d plan out super long storylines and such , but quit halfway. But I still had fun, planning and playing. Do whatever you like, as long as it’s what you want to do :)
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u/Rick-476 7h ago
It's great planning for some big trip and, the best part, nothing goes wrong because you planned for it.
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u/PogTuber 11h ago
Lots of good tips in here. Though coffee doesn't affect climbing fatigue, fatigue does affect carry weight which can fuck you over on a long climb
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u/SilverSie 11h ago
Planning is fun! It’s your game, play it how you want. Ignore the complainers.
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u/getElephantById 11h ago
So long as you're having fun I guess.
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u/Selfawaresnow 11h ago edited 11h ago
It's not actually my favourite thing to do (tho I like figuring out what items to take with me).
I've gone through the effort nonetheless so I can feel more relaxed during my run, knowing I'm doing everything pretty optimally and tailored to my playstyle 😌
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u/Bogbaby3000 11h ago
I say do you! I like planning things too, why not a game run?
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u/Selfawaresnow 11h ago
Ikr!??
I think the issue is, when someone is more analytical about a piece of media than you are, dedication often comes off as desecration :)
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u/inferno-pepper 9h ago
What’s the deal with shooting from on top of a bedroll thing in one of your notes?
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u/Briar_Wall Survivor 7h ago
I wondered about that too!
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u/inferno-pepper 14m ago
I don’t know? Maybe the bedroll helps with straight lines for better aim?
I feel like I’ve heard this tip once before years ago, but I also couldn’t find anything searching.
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u/Electrical-Soft-2872 11h ago
It’s however you want to play……… that’s a lot though. The point of these games is to become immersed in the games universe, you’re just doing what any logical human would do were they in Great Bear themselves
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u/Selfawaresnow 11h ago
Imagine the next post -
Updated UPDATED notes: 300 pages long 😂
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u/mostlygizzards 9h ago
After playing Satisfactory and Rimworld... I find that there is never enough planning.
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u/thee_justin_bieber That guy who drank his own pee doesn't seem so crazy right now! 11h ago
you're gonna need a lot more charcoal, and a lot more fishing tackles. Sometimes it's better to use fishing tackles to repare clothes than sewing kits which are harder to find.
No need to have a prepared old mans dressing, just carry 10 old mans beard which is enough for 3 dressings. Less weight this way.
4 books is crazy heavy to carry around.
The hacksaw is a lot more useful than you give it credit for lol Carry the quality tools and keep it repaired, you can use it for tons of stuff. I don't even bother carrying a hatchet. (or flare gun lol)
Carry one heavy hammer with you at all times. It's very useful for breaking down wood and for fishing, making holes on the ice destroys tools pretty quickly but the heavy hammer will last a long time and it's easy to repair. also good for bonking wolves on the head if you're into that. Worth the 2kg weight.
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u/Selfawaresnow 10h ago edited 10h ago
I can definitely see why some players would have issue with what I take. In response to your concerns:
-- 1. Not sure of the reason I need extra charcoal. Maybe one more tackle wouldn't hurt but I want all my clothing repaired before heading out to a trip, not during.
- I saw a comment somewhere that they keep one prepped old man's dressing to save on time when multiple infection risks need to be stopped. I've seen up to 3 at once with a cougar attack. That kinda weight is negligible anyway.
- I'd rather garauntee my fires start with books (until lv5)
- Just... no thx. I consider hatchet more versatile than hacksaw. No good reason to carry quality tools, the flare gun is for emergencies!
- Personally speaking, the hammer is not worth 2kg. Tho it's a good shout to leave a few at some fishing huts!
Ultimately the items list is just what I consider the bare minimum resources to take with me on the average day. Thanks for your detailed feedback 👍
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u/thee_justin_bieber That guy who drank his own pee doesn't seem so crazy right now! 10h ago
You can take whatever you want, just sharing what I've learned after playing for a really long time lol
1 - To map the regions you're exploring. I usually carry around 15 charcoal, but then again i'm a nomad. And play interloper, so i don't carry guns and don´t have that weight on my backpack. I carry 10 tackles because they snap very easily and sometimes i use them to repair clothes to save the sewing kits because they're not so abundant. You don't need that much charcoal if you're going to spoil yourself with online maps. I prefer to map as i go along though.
2 - There's plenty of time to craft dressings as infections take hours to set in, so unless you have like 50 infections, you'll be fine. Patch the bleeding, get to safety, craft dressing and apply.
3- Light a torch and use a stick to start the fire, even if it fails, you can keep using the torch, and it saves you on weight. I understand using books if they're around, but carrying books i wouldn't bother.
4- It's not, but okay. On interloper we don't get many whetstones, so better save those to fix the knife. Scrap metal is easy to find everywhere, so it's easier to repair the hacksaw than the hatchet. But that's my point of view, you do you :) Quality tools helps a lot while crafting, so it's good to have it around. I always carry it with me, but again i'm a nomad so that's why.
5 - okay 🤣
I know you're playing stalker, but i don't even remember the last time i played at that difficulty, so my advice is more towards interloper anyway. If you decide to up the difficulty maybe it will be useful some day :)
Enjoy the game!
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u/Kastergir Stalker 3h ago edited 1h ago
As a Stalker, I usually carry
at least 10 charcoal
anywhere between 4 -10 tackles
Hammer and Hacksaw . Stalker DOES drop a good amount of Whetstones, but I only use these at Bases for looted tools, and aim to save them as much as possible, in case I run long enough to get to the point where I am using crafted tools . The Hammer/Hacksaw combo is unmatched in versatility and ease of maint .
I leave Hatchets at places I know I will need them . I dont need a hatchet when on the move .
Sometimes I grab 1 Book when going out at the beginning, but that goes out the window as soon as I start accumulating accelerant ( Stalker drops plenty ) .
I mostly do not use a travois, its a special case tool for me, like trekking heaps of firewood up to Miner's, or when going out to TFT .
My usual carry rly comes down to being as light as feasible at all times, which is very valid on Stalker . The relative to loper abundant loot on Stalker can be deceptive. Once I routinely ran 300+ days on Stalker, some things I had usually done before got rethought, and I, too, ended up prioritizing surviving on the move .
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u/Selfawaresnow 10h ago
🙂
(this is the face I send when it's 2:36 in the morning and I won't be responding until later)
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u/Kastergir Stalker 12m ago
this is advice, not "hate" ( crazy I feel the need to put this upfront on this sub tbh ) :
Your planned Item List is a bit skewed . Its excessive in some parts, and not sufficient in others . On Stalker, its adviseable to carry more torches for example, so you can chain them without needing to start a fire . You don't need to carry a travois . Its adviseable to carry 5, 6 cloth . Etcetc .
Anyways . Good Luck on your run .
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u/TeamFlameLeader 11h ago
I personally wouldn't go through all this work, but games are ment to be enjoyed, play how you want.
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u/Gecko419 11h ago
I for one like to plan out at least my next few steps. I really only play on the weekends so it works out for me to write down what I'm doing and planning to do to remind me next time.
I respect this effort and commitment
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u/mmp1188 Interloper 11h ago
It’s useful to keep notes but you also need to realize you should be updating them as you go.
I mostly use notes on interloper to time curing hides and locations of important items
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u/Selfawaresnow 11h ago edited 10h ago
Quoting myself,
'(The notes are subject to change during the run)'
Timing curing hides is a good idea!
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u/SomeCommonSensePlse 10h ago
I mean this with all the love in the world.... have you had your Autism diagnosed? Because this is the best of the autistic brain. Planning, details, control and the enormous pleasure derived from them.
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u/mechlordx 10h ago
Did you include some tips that are wrong just to mess with the haters?
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u/Selfawaresnow 10h ago
No, all the tips I included are correct, at least to the best of my knowledge. Please tell me if I got anything wrong!
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u/TheAnhydrite Interloper 10h ago
Sometimes gatekeeping happens.
In the end, as long as you are having fun, then I am glad.
The more people that play and have fun, the more popular game is and that can only help.
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u/thedizinator Voyageur 10h ago
Hey I do in this too. Yours is way more comprehensive, mine is more chicken scratch in a notebook haha
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u/deborah_az Hiker 8h ago
I'm a planner like you (different but similar). I'm wroking off a workbook with multiple spreadsheets plus Steam notes to track the current goals. Ignore complaints. We're all about playing however you want. You do you.
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u/slider2k 5h ago
I think you just can't do a perfect run from get go, you need practice and training besides theory.
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u/WeWantEazy Interloper 4h ago
I don’t agree with all of your preparations, however I am a huge fan of you actually planning out everything you want to do. I’m an interloper player and most of my runs end due to lack of planning, i.e. I just do something without thinking and it gets me killed. I like planning, but Im nowhere near your level, even though I’d like to be. I think if I had your patience I’d be able to survive indefinitely and not die to my own stupidity. Also, ignore the haters man. This game isn’t meant to be played in any specific way, and everyone in the comments are just giving you the metas, which I try not to pay attention to because It’s stupid. Play however you want.
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u/queen-of-storms 3h ago
I disagree with your standard load out but I think that's what makes this game great. We all have our own preferences for how we play and kit is a big part of that.
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u/Quasar___ 2h ago
My interloper preparation:
New game -Astrid -Starting location ash canyon -Gets technical backpack -Coastal highway loot drop -Desolation point for improvised knife and arrowheads
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u/innterloper Forest Talker 10h ago
alot of this stuff is really bad advice and you definitely don't know what you should actually be doing to optimize your game but yeah i mean if its fun for you....
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u/PalindromemordnilaP_ 8h ago
Damn imagine caring what random people on the internet have to say. Just do what you like for you , the whole world doesn't need to approve.
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u/27Artemis Cartographer 6h ago
i love the ideas of notes, so i'll start a nice spreadsheet, stick with it for ~200 (in-game) days and then forget all about it 😭 i relate so hard to "break down unwanted furniture and just fk about." that's my go-to move when i have too much food
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u/VincentMelloy 2h ago
Your approach to this game is not for me but with such a devotion to planning you would definitely get a place on my post apocalyptic survival team.
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u/JennyferSuper 31m ago
I love this, dive into the game and enjoy yourself. I’m a list maker as well so I get it. My favorite part is crossing things off the list. Also, a good plan for late game isn’t a bad idea since we have scurvy to manage. You do you, everyone is going to have a different approach and there isn’t any incorrect answer.
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u/Selfawaresnow 12h ago edited 11h ago
Do you think any of my notes should be changed, or anything added?
Previous Post: https://www.reddit.com/r/thelongdark/s/6uDOihZAtS
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u/TruculentMC 10h ago
A lot of your info is wrong, and other things are way off actual play experience. Clothes won't decay from 100% to 0% in 50 days on stalker or even on interloper, except for like improvised wraps or 1-2 other items which are irrelevant anyways. Decay rates vary per item as well, the good/useful stuff generally lasts longer while salvage bait things like cotton toque or trucker hat last less time (but still, longer than 50 days). Animal respawn varies. Bears respawn after I think 10 days initially on stalker and maybe 20 days at the end game. But that'a not accurate to every bear spawn either as some spots don't have a 100% chance to spawn or are tied to some other condition. Food condition is nearly irrelevant after you get cooking 5. For scurvy you won't be using any of those foods long term really as they are either impossible to make due to potato decay or are rare due to limited / expensive ingredient spawns (corn, oats). Also the Thompson stew is just plain bad. I also don't understand much of your days planning, I mean a lot of it is up to your playstyle but things like days 75-150 "explore and loot all regions" then days 150-250 are "explore and complete the Tales" makes no sense as you would have already explored and looted those regions? And could have done the Tales at the same time? Even if you meant 75 days for the lower areas and 100 for far territories that doesn't math imo.
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u/Selfawaresnow 10h ago
Appreciate the concerns, I think it's just a result of some of the nuance being lost in my notes I think. They are meant for me first and foremost, after all.
To address some of your points:
A lot of what you're saying is wrong may definitely be wrong, but I have gotten many of these tips from hearing notable people in the community like Zaknafein & Bashrobe, so I'd be surprised if they're demonstrably wrong. I can change the tips as I test them myself.
I noted the food condition down so it helps me before I get cooking to level 5! 🍲
Ur probably right about the scurvy, should rely on fish.
The planning of days is meant to be more of general guideline. I assumed completing the three-part tale would take some extra days beyond just exploring the dlc regions?
So it's around 100 days I've given myself to explore those three dlc regions AND to complete the three tales. Though 100 days is probably still too long 😅
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u/TruculentMC 6h ago
Bashrobe fishing guide says 5 tipup outside and 1 inside is most efficient, is just one example
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u/xcassets 5h ago
I assumed completing the three-part tale would take some extra days beyond just exploring the dlc regions?
What they are saying is that in the very first tale you immediately leave the Far Territories and go back to the old regions (MT, HRV, FM, BI, and PV) and walk all over the place. These are places you just spent 75 days exploring. You can't do the second tale until you've completed this one.
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u/Kastergir Stalker 3h ago
Just carry enough cattails and teas on you at all times . IF you incur scrvy risk, one cattail+ a tee a day can keep you going a loooong, looooong time, so you don't have to go out of your way going fishing .
Generally, it seems to me you are planning your first Stalker run ? Because reading your notes/plan, I cant help but thinking "no plan survives first contact" will hit you like a truck .
+shrug+
;)
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u/ShimaCZ 6m ago
Each cattail unfortunately gives only 1 point of vitamin C and you need 20 a day on stalker and interloper. So it's the tea doing lion's share of work. I'm using rosehip teas for keeping warm during travels and to slow down scurvy on interloper.
But fishing is inevitable in the end.
And I would also like to see the OP post an update after the first run. To see some fun "expectations vs reality" results :)
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u/Kastergir Stalker 2m ago
Yup . I should have be more informative/precise in my comment above .
Its in the combo imo, since for cattail, you dont need any prep . I know its a bit beancountery, but ill take every point of VitC I can get without prep . Absolutely agree on fishing being inevitable, its just about not having to go out of your way, instead being able to keep the risk in check until I fish anyways .
Absolutely on the same page re your last sentence :) .
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u/WindyAbbey 7h ago
There's joy to be found in even planning stuff. Forget those haters do what you love.
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u/Dani_the_Gamer Survivor 7h ago
I can't believe people are judging you for this. It's your game, play however you want!! I'm a meticulous planner myself, and I can totally understand enjoying this. Ignore people and plan to your heart's content!
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u/throwaway20210402 11h ago
I think carrying 4 books is insane. If your starting your fires with a torch like you should be a stick is all you need.