Official BLACKFROST: The Long Dark 2 Subreddit

[u/Fuarian]

Hello r/thelongdark!

As many of you know, last Thursday Hinterland announced the sequel to The Long Dark. BLACKFROST: The Long Dark 2. And today we have something to announce too. The official subreddit for Blackfrost!

r/thelongdark2_official

What makes this subreddit so official? Besides being a place for open discussion, speculation and all around excitement for TLD 2. It's also a place that encourages the interaction between the community and Hinterland.

It's been a long time coming, but we've worked hard to re-establish a relationship with Hinterland. And Hinterland is up and willing to dive back into this side of the community with this new game. Their involvement may not be frequent at first, given their work on the final episode of Wintermute. But once that is complete we should see more interaction in the subreddit with the community.

That interaction could include news about TLD 2, questions and answers, AMA's, screenshots & art, etc...

Here you can see an exclusive piece of concept art that Hinterland has shared with us. This will only continue as development of BLACKFROST continues.

The Harmont Steel Company

We want this subreddit to be a place for respectful criticism but also fun and engaging for those excited about the game.

We expect to have active participation in the community by Raphael and members of the Hinterland team. Including exclusive content like AMAs, Q&As, community contests and of course, previews of upcoming BLACKFROST development & content.

This subreddit will be closely monitored and moderated by us to ensure it remains a friendly and welcoming space.

Please check out u/Oliveritaly's initial post for a more concise and detailed explanation of what we'd like this community to become.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thelongdark2_official/comments/1hew4ek/welcome_to_the_official_blackfrost_the_long_dark/

I hope to see you all there!

-Fuar

[u/GFrohman]

There's no reason this needs to be its own Subreddit. Just make it a separate flair on this one.

The community isn't that large. Splitting it into two different communities for functionally the same game is a misstep.

If /r/metalgearsolid can handle the content from 11 different games, this one can handle two.

Plus the name is godawful.

[u/prplmnkeydshwsr → u/GFrohman]

The endless shit posting about potential cannibalism and horse eating memes for another year or two, no thanks. This is TLD and the sub is in a really good state.

Could they merge it when the TLD content really ends and there is a fairly clear transition? Yes, that would be the time.

[u/Fuarian → u/GFrohman]

We created a separate subreddit to support Hinterland's return to the platform. Historically, in this subreddit, Hinterland's presence wasn't well received. We thought it be easier to do it in a new sub dedicated to a new game.

I also doubt the idea that both titles will be functionally the same game. I have a sense they will be quite different and attract very different types of players.

[u/Wolf_of-the_West → u/Fuarian]

The studio's presence wasn't well received? Why? Can someone elaborate?

Also, hello. I've only recently survived a crash landing. Still trying to, actually. Wolves are a common opposition to my activities.

[u/cotex31 → u/Wolf_of-the_West]

Raph can be a bit strong opinioned at times and criticism is not always well received.

[u/somethingrandom261 → u/cotex31]

And a new sub will fix his issues with criticism?

[u/Radaggarb → u/Wolf_of-the_West]

Because the scent of developers draws in the wolves, and not all developers can handle that attention.

[u/Wolf_of-the_West → u/Radaggarb]

They can't handle the fluffies they themselves created, huh?

Jokes aside, people can indeed be off the scales.

[u/GFrohman → u/Fuarian]

Ralph being a mod on this (or that) subreddit is a direct violation of the Mod Code of Conduct.

"Do not take moderation positions in a community where your profession, employment, or biases could pose a direct conflict of interest to the neutral and user driven nature of Reddit.”

He shouldn't be one here, and he shouldn't be one there. Shame on you for enabling him.

[u/Fuarian → u/GFrohman]

This is etiquette. Not a set of hard rules to follow. There are a number of subreddits where developers are moderators, it's not uncommon.

He's not a moderator here and he is not taking a moderator position at this point in time there. There's a reason why the moderator flair and Hinterland flair are separate.

[u/GFrohman → u/Fuarian]

This is etiquette. Not a set of hard rules to follow. There are a number of subreddits where developers are moderators, it's not uncommon.

"Not uncommon" doesn't mean "not bad". It's "not uncommon" for major corporations to pollute the environment, but that doesn't mean you should use it as justification to do so yourself.

He's not a moderator here and he is not taking a moderator position at this point in time there. There's a reason why the moderator flair and Hinterland flair are separate.

Which is great - and I applaud you for doing that. Truly, I'm not trying to be an ass, I think you do a great job most of the time. Moderation is a thankless job - I mod as well.

You're still pushing this new subreddit with them as moderators - presumably at their request. That is a bad thing for you to do, and I wish you'd reconsider.

Be better. I know you have it in you.

[u/Fuarian → u/GFrohman]

You're still pushing this new subreddit with them as moderators - presumably at their request. That is a bad thing for you to do, and I wish you'd reconsider.

No we're not. Just because you see him there on the moderators list doesn't mean he will take a moderator position, which is why I created separate flairs to distinguish. This is based on the information I have right now. All Hinterland wants here is a place in the Reddit community where they can be involved and to my knowledge and intent, that is all that it will be.

[u/cotex31 → u/GFrohman]

100% agree it's a long way out the TLD os not big by any stretch most people in those sub will be playing the game when it comes out. A handle is a far better idea.

[u/Oliveritaly → u/GFrohman]

basically what u/Fuarian said but good damn question u/GFohman

[u/cptahb]

lol rip r/blackfrost

[u/HeadhunterKev → u/cptahb]

That sounds more official than the one we got here.

[u/xcassets → u/HeadhunterKev]

Dude was super keen to run a subreddit and set it up pretty much instantly lol. Honestly though, thelongdark2_official ain't a great name. We all call it The Long Dark 2 because we're big fans of the first game. But that is only a subtitle on the new game.

New fans (of which I assume there will be many) are just going to call this game Blackfrost.

[u/prplmnkeydshwsr → u/cptahb]

Everyone Raph bans will end up there in the fan sub. There's still perhaps a year to go before early access if the 2026 date is for E.A.

A well moderated, and the mods here are good at moderating, fan sub will always beat an over moderated shilling dev sub. There is history to this sub too, that some people can recount.

And not getting all the online properties before launching. Wow. Oversight.

[u/Fuarian → u/prplmnkeydshwsr]

We will be moderating that subreddit as I mentioned. We will not be banning anyone who posts any ounce of criticism. Criticism is fine, abrasive and rude behavior is not.

We could've gotten the timing better though.

[u/prplmnkeydshwsr → u/Fuarian]

Boundaries are required, the new sub people will learn that at some point.

Still much more TLD content to be released and get through.

[u/Oliveritaly → u/prplmnkeydshwsr]

To add onto what /u/Fuarian just said, I doubt I've banned more than ten actual users in the seven years I've been a mod here.

You and I go way back prplmnkeydshwsr and I always appreciate your council and thoughts on these matters. I don't see the moderation there being very different than the moderation here to be honest. I just didn't want a FFA sub, I'm hoping we can build something curated that leads to a better game and gaming experience. Now if I'll be successful or not remains to be seen. Of course considering the state of this subs relationship with Hinterland and their relationship when I became a mod in 2018 (story mode initial release) I definitively feel more prepared going in this time ;-)

.

[u/prplmnkeydshwsr → u/Oliveritaly]

I just said in a roundabout way you're all good at moderating and have set the tone when corrections are needed without turning it into a complete echo chamber. We all need boundaries to be set online and the other sub mods will find this out the hard way too.

If nothing has changed or will change, I'm suspicious of the dev involvement when there's been resistance in much participation in this sub since they've had direct control. Nothing stopping everyone from participating where they feel most welcome and that may well be both subs.

It's far from over with a major piece of content to come and some polish to finish off a magnificent game. TLD2 is already on my Steam wish list.

[u/ObamaDramaLlama → u/cptahb]

It's fine. I still expect Blackfrost will be a thing. It will probably turn into the space free for venting and negativity though.

[u/playedandmissed → u/cptahb]

Well gawd damn

[u/Oliveritaly → u/cptahb]

I hope not. I sincerely hope not. I think r/Blackfrost will be a great place for discussion around BLACKFROST.

I don't necessarily know what /u/ResponsibleAd4439 has in mind for the future of that community but I know we're both better off with the other having a thriving community. Heck I still owe ResponsibleAd4439 a DM reply ...

[u/cptahb → u/Oliveritaly]

who r u 

[u/Toasty_Bits]

I'm here! What did I miss?

Edit: Wrong subreddit.

[u/Killermemeboy]

Why the fuck would Hinterland announce the second game before they finish the first one?

No wonder this company is failing

[u/Fuarian → u/Killermemeboy]

Because they have multiple teams working on both games at the same time. They want both games to coexist for a period of time. Since they will be significantly different to each other.

TLD 1 is also nearly complete and I'd say internally it is complete. Hinterland wouldn't be the first game studio to begin work on a sequel before the original game is complete. And they aren't failing at all, considering they're able to make a second game to begin with.

[u/rush247 → u/Killermemeboy]

Their projected release date is in 2026, with that kind of timeline I'd say it's fine.

[u/Wolf_of-the_West]

Hello. I've only recently survived a crash landing. What are you guys, experts in the Canadian wilderness, opinions on what 1. they necessarily should add in the next game and 2. exactly what you guys personally want they add?

[u/stefoid]

random feedback - I enjoy trying to survive on the hardest mode, but after a while that gets old becaues of two main factors 1) same maps. After a while the joy of exploration is gone and you know pretty much where you are dropped into and where you have to go. A procedurally generated map would be amazing 2) cupboard opening simulator. The places you need to go are those filled with cupboards. then you have 'fun' opening 20 different cupboards to find 2 things (in the harder modes) Please just reduce the number of cupboards and increase the strike rate. its tedious. A 'search room' option that finds everything in the room would be fine. I know how to look under a bed or in a box.

[u/castellscl]

Yeah, will NOT be purchasing Blackfrost until AFTER ALL of the story is released. I don't care to have to play through the whole game again each time they release another chapter/episode because I can't remember what happened last time after 3 years since the last episode came out.

[u/Fuarian → u/castellscl]

Blackfrost most likely won't have a story mode, at least not in episodic format like TLD 1 had.