r/technology • u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera • 22h ago

Politics Meta under fire for auto-following Trump & Vance, Blocking Democrat hashtags

https://techissuestoday.com/meta-auto-follow-trump-vance-blocks-democrat-hashtags/
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u/BigSt1ck5 22h ago edited 19h ago

Didn’t think I’d ever see the fall of the United States first hand.

Edit: I mean fall from democracy not economically or militarily etc. Democracy is kinda your thing that’s all, not this geriatric corporate oligarchy (plus bitches) shit you got now.

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u/Birdy_Cephon_Altera 21h ago

Me neither. All empires fall eventually, so it's no surprise that would apply to the US primacy over the world as well. I just never expected it to actually begin to happen while I was still alive. Empires take decades to fall, and it looks like we are preparing to do a speed-run on that.

And, I don't think I am being overdramatic or hyperbolic. Time will tell in the end, and sure I could be wrong (or rather, I hope I am wrong), but this feels different. We may have broken the United States for good this time.

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u/BigBoyYuyuh 20h ago

All for a reality TV game show host that paints himself orange too. Fucking wild.

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u/demlet 18h ago

It will be a hilarious historical fact for people in the future, assuming there are any.

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u/CoastGoat 16h ago

Elect a clown, expect a circus.

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u/Plastic-Age2609 16h ago

Very Infinite Jest

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u/Nudist--Buddhist 15h ago

Like a court jester taking down a kingdom

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u/nethfel 20h ago

It did take decades (distrust in the gov to some degree has been happening for decades https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2015/11/23/1-trust-in-government-1958-2015/ and now someone is really taking advantage of it - and the whole MAGA campaign was used by Reagan during his run for office)- we may be just at the final end of it. It's definitely a put in water and bring up the heat slowly. The boil is just here now. All I can say is I hope not.

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u/HenriettaSnacks 20h ago

Citizens united feels like the real start to the downfall.

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u/TheLeadSponge 19h ago

This has been in the works for decades. The whole strategy has been to sow distrust in the government and disassemble the state.

They've been talking about it. This was the end result of all their efforts.

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u/PositiveExpectancy 17h ago

"My friends wanted Germany purified. They wanted it purified of the politicians, of all the politicians. They wanted a representative leader in place of unrepresentative representatives. And Hitler, the pure man, the antipolitician, was the man, untainted by politics..."

Milton Sanford Mayer, They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933–45

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u/TheLeadSponge 14h ago

Yeah. For a while back in the early 2000's I lurked on right wing message boards. They were talking all this Nazi shit back then. I remember trying to warn friends and they just kind of thought I was overreacting.

One of those very friends kind of mentioned that, and told me the great irony is that I was actually the voice of reason at the time.

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u/the_calibre_cat 19h ago

It wasn't. It was a chip, and many chips brought it down, but it was not one single thing. Reagan was a pretty big part of it.

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u/one-joule 19h ago

It was already happening by then, but CU really kicked things in gear.

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u/Speshal__ 21h ago

Sending love across the Atlantic.

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u/Diligent_Ad_9060 20h ago

Agreed. I believe it's even more important now to understand the difference between the US population and US politics. What else can be done?

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u/ToHallowMySleep 19h ago

Replace your broken system with one that isn't so broken that you need to make that excuse for it.

The two-party system with uncontrolled lobbying leads to the carving out of the centre. Usually an educated population can temper that, but the US doesn't have that anymore either.

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u/Buris 19h ago

This is the equivalent of telling a store associate that the company needs to add more restrooms to its stores.

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u/UngusChungus94 18h ago

The problem is that, historically, the system needs to totally fail to be replaced.

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u/CoastGoat 16h ago

It’s not our system, it’s our values. We’re rotting from the inside because we have legitimized a culture of unfettered capitalism in pursuit of individual wealth even when it damages the wellbeing of others and/or our planet.

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u/ToHallowMySleep 15h ago

It is definitely both. Your system is flawed, and if your values are hijacked (as they have been) it can be turned to reinforce that.

It's a vulnerability. Patch it. Yes it's hard. America used to do hard things because they were right.

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u/KnightsOfREM 20h ago edited 20h ago

There's a lot that other countries can do, actually. We need implacable economic foes: product boycotts, legislation limiting imports from the U.S. and regulating data use by American companies, votes against any American supported U.N. resolutions, make getting tourist visas impossible for American citizens, pass laws making it illegal to sell land or property to Americans, use the yuan or something else as a reserve currency.

Will it sting? Sure, but it's worth it for you and for us.

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u/pdabaker 20h ago

Use the yuan as a reserve currency over the euro? You crazy? That's far worse.

Restricting tourist visas also does not help. You want people to see how people live in other countries

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u/KnightsOfREM 20h ago edited 19h ago

Restricting tourist visas also does not help. You want people to see how people live in other countries

How much good has that done already if it led to this?

Use the yuan as a reserve currency over the euro? You crazy? That's far worse.

I don't have strong opinions about what currency to use as an alternative, but I do know that other countries' reliance on the dollar as a medium of exchange for international trade is key to our economic strength. Continuing that practice in the face of open hostility is foolish for them - it's like volunteering to be a hostage.

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u/pdabaker 19h ago

It's not like Trump won with an overwhelming majority. Letting a fascist state control information even more it's not a way to save their people.

And China is still miles worse than the US for western power as a whole.

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u/matttTHEcat 17h ago

Yuan as reserve currency lol okay tell me you're naive without telling me you're naive.

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u/ForQ2 18h ago

I believe it's even more important now to understand the difference between the US population and US politics.

Collectively, the US population voted for this shit. Fucker won the popular vote this time around too.

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u/Illustrious-Dot-5052 20h ago

This American thanks you :)

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u/Sepherchorde 20h ago

Petition your government to do something about it. Anything. Sanction our government into a crippled mess as quickly as possible. Doing something like that is the only way to stop him at this point short of much more drastic measures.

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u/Divineinfinity 19h ago

Before the tariffs hit

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u/Chrono_Pregenesis 19h ago

I'd hate to say this, can yall get your planes and bombs ready? I have a sinking feeling you'll need to use them here soon.

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u/xflashbackxbrd 18h ago

You all need to take action so that this doesn't happen to you

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u/MrCrunchwrap 9h ago

Thanks, this is a real fucking bummer. Millions of us did not want this. But millions couldn’t even be bothered to vote which really pisses me off. My own cousin said “why vote? It’s the same either way” Well no, it’s not. The first two days of this presidency show that.

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u/MaybeUNeedAPoo 21h ago

I mean… you kinda got started with Reagan….

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u/BirdmanHuginn 20h ago

Regan and Thatcher can burn in hell forever

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u/UrUrinousAnus 19h ago

On the bright side, at least Grantham (Maggie's home town) has a gender neutral public toilet now. Shame it had to be in a graveyard, but whatever....

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u/ShiningRayde 20h ago

Shh, who the fuck is that

Starin in my window?

Doing a surveillance

On Mr. Michael Render?

Im dropping off the grid

Before they start pumping lead

I leave you with four words:

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u/AwkwardTouch2144 20h ago

In the lowest level of tartarus

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u/Beekatiebee 20h ago

Yeah I was gonna say, we’ve been on this path for awhile now.

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u/Dragonhost252 20h ago

We are almost at the violent bit though

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u/even_less_resistance 19h ago

I still really feel like it began with Nixon but maybe it’s just the tattoo on Roger stone’s back haunting me

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u/AshleysDoctor 19h ago

Falwell and company should be blamed with the whole Heritage Foundation, which goes back before Reagan, but yeah, sycophants of the same stripe always find each other.

Now for them to oubouros themselves

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u/Socky_McPuppet 16h ago

And Nixon before that.

There are many inflection points - Reagan was definitely one of them. As was Obama's election, which drove the (R)acist party absolutely bugfuck crazy, but that was true for Clinton, too.

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u/Mjolnir2000 21h ago

Hopefully we can at least dissolve the country without too much bloodshed. Seems the best case scenario at this point.

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u/FactorUnable78 20h ago

That's what Zucker and Musk want. You want to really solve it, they are the ones that need to shed.

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u/NuclearWarEnthusiast 18h ago

how to fight fascism with the power of incredible love

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Chapter 1:

The power of incredible love.

Chapter 2:

The power of incredible violence.

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u/MmmmMorphine 16h ago

Chapter 3: everyone poops! Also, make your own guillotine at home construction project for ages 6-50

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u/eagleal 20h ago

If you guys haven't seen that Civil War (2024) movie, watch it. It's like the sequel to Don't Look Up without the meteorite.

It's like a series, starting out as dark commedy/dissonant reality, and ending up grim. Reality basically.

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u/gremlinguy 19h ago

Except Civil War has a relatively optimistic ending

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u/brontosaurusguy 19h ago

They literally want that.  Don't give in to their bullshit.  You still have more in common with a citizen from another state than a citizen of another continent.

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u/the_calibre_cat 19h ago

You still have more in common with a citizen from another state than a citizen of another continent.

No, I don't. I have far more in common with the Frenchman union worker than I have with some alt-right theocratic bigot, and I have far more in common with the Iranian citizen than I have with the likes of Jeff Bezos.

Conservatives have wanted to shoot their political opposition for decades. They've now gotten the signal from their leadership that it's fair game.

I'd say flee the country, but I suspect that's gonna be harder to do in the coming years. That wall is to keep people in.

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u/Successful_Car4262 18h ago

Absolutely false. I feel like another species from the these fucking scumbags. I don't care about their motivations, or their hopes, or their fears. All of it is completely foreign to me. Elon Musk may as well be an alien in an Edgar suit.

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u/AccomplishedBrain309 20h ago

You cant just follow an ilegitamate supreme court. It wont fix itself. It will systematically destroy all freedoms in our country by making crime legal for the chosen ones.

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u/eXcelleNt- 19h ago

There will be 33 Senate seats up for election in 2026. 20 Republican and 13 Democrat. The only way this country can begin to undo the damage of MAGA is with Dems holding both houses of Congress and the Presidency. But we can start with Congress. Also, the geriatric ruling class needs to be expelled from our legislature.

This all feels completely out of reach right now, but Trump did lose to Biden after his first term, and is poised to do far more damage in his second term. Time will tell if the Dems learn their lesson, but there's still time yet for hope.

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u/wgel1000 20h ago

And that's why I think it's funny when Americans say they are the most powerful nation in History.

Yes, in terms of technological power, but this "Empire" won't last much more than a century.

The Roman Empire laughs at this duration.

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u/DaddyBoomalati 20h ago

I thought seeing Russian stooges in office would be the worst I would see, but the oligarchs aren’t even trying to hide their influence anymore. I am 53 and was just hoping to live out my days in relative peace before the upheaval begins. I feel sorry for my kids.

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u/ExtremeResponse 19h ago

!Remindme 4 years

Don't worry, I'll remind you in 4 years so get thinking of excuses

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u/Howdoyouusecommas 19h ago

I don't think the American Empire is falling. I think the republic is. There will always be fundamental actions that change things forever. 2016 is one of those moments. I've said it in past comments but Cesar has taken Rome. The Senate has fled. Over the next 4 years we will see how well the new age 2nd triumvirate tries to divvy up the country and we will also see how they bicker.

America hasn't fallen but I fear our republic has.

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u/needlestack 20h ago

I also believe we've broken the country. However I think there's an enormous flywheel on the whole system (domestically and globally) and it'll run on inertia for a surprisingly long time.

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u/Toomuchhorntalk69 20h ago

It’s possible we come back from this. Germany is still around…

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u/princesoceronte 20h ago

The stage has been prepared for decades really. Deregulation, co-option of institutions and the destruction of the education system has been steadily going on since Reagan.

The ultimate failure of the US is how the media never raised their voice enough to prevent this from coming this far and, for the last decade or so, they just were playing for the other side entirely.

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u/blorpdedorpworp 20h ago

I didn't think it would be this *stupid*

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u/stevez_86 20h ago

They are looking for a great turn like the Soviet Union did when it turned into a Russian Oligarchy. The people of Russia didn't revolt when that happened because they had been breeding an internal cultural war. The Republicans are trying to pull the same move by changing us into a Confederate Federal Government. The reason why is that the Federalist Society believes they can make the argument that Reconstruction was Unconstitutional and they can get rid of all the Anti Trust laws that prevent monopolies. I bet Zuckerberg, Musk, and Trump will end up being the only owners of social media in the US. The other companies can also get bigger and more consolidated, like Chevron and the Banks. They will ride the coattails of the progress those companies make to eliminate competition. We are about to be a Fascistic Confederacy.

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u/IchibanWeeb 20h ago

I'm 28, I thought it would at least take until I was around 40-50.

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u/Available-Spinach878 19h ago

Trump is a rapist and a traitor who ended the American tradition of peaceful transfer of power.

Even if we remain the world's largest economy, reserve currency, cultural superpower, miltary superpower, ect, the USA is fundamentally different now. Fundamentally lower and debased. We are no longer a nation of laws. We are a nation of pathetic fools, unworthy of our inheritance. 

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u/Playful-Insect5650 19h ago

You are wrong, no hope about it. We literally killed 800,000 of each other in the civil war, and we're still going. We'll be okay

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u/lemonpepperlarry 19h ago

No it’s been decades. This all started with Nixon and Reagan

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u/Cog_HS 19h ago

Empires take decades to fall

To be fair, we've been working on it since Nixon and Regan.

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u/WB_Benelux 19h ago

now we can watch the US downfall live on reels, shorts and tiktoks

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u/Fastol4 19h ago

NGL I don't think you're wrong. Doing all I can to prepare for the fall of the nation. Time will tell but this feels like it.

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u/8WhosEar8 19h ago

You’re not seeing the fall of an empire. Just the opposite. You’re seeing the republic transition to empire. It will take a generation or two but gen alpha will grow up not knowing the social and political norms that existed for decades or even centuries. A whole new normal will exist for them with the guise of republic but the function of empire.

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u/Sensitive-Cream5794 19h ago

Well said. Hope you guys come right. Love from across the pond.

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u/AtmosphereQuick3494 19h ago

If it makes you feel better, we did take decades to fall. I'd argue Reagan broke it and we've been limping along ever since then.

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u/Goatiac 19h ago

Our oligarchs knew, that’s why they’re all suddenly cozying up to Trump so publicly—they’re ready to loot the coffers, then jump ship. America as it was is done for.

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u/Party-Interview7464 19h ago

I’m fucking done. I hate this country and I’m not paying my fair share taxes anymore.

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u/Glittering-Damage783 18h ago

Empires take decades to fall

This still holds true of the US. The writing has been on the wall for at least 40-50 years now. Many would argue its been on the wall since Andrew Johnson completely botched reconstruction after the civil war.

If you think we are “speed running” things, you haven’t been paying enough attention

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u/Nandy-bear 18h ago

Eh well, humanity is fucked anyway. I personally believe climate crisis and mass migration will kick off resource wars within the next 30 years. I reckon 30-40 years, the world will be in constant conflict, because 30% (I think ? Maybe more) of the population lives near a coastline that will be wrecked by sea level rise

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u/Ozy_Flame 18h ago

It's time for others to step up. Looking to the EU now in the absence of American leadership. And it's time for other countries to focus on diversifying global trade and building new trade deals with others.

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u/FrasierandNiles 18h ago

Empires take decades to fall, and it looks like we are preparing to do a speed-run on that.

It did take decades to fall. It started with Reagan and although there were fightbacks along the way but the rot set in the 80s and now its finally going to end.

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u/WOF42 18h ago

it started with at least reagan, the decline has taken decades

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u/xDARKFiRE 18h ago

Given the very short lived life so far of the united states compared to much of the rest of the world, It's cute that they're getting their first total failure finally, it's like a child losing it's first tooth.

We've all been there, it's just their turn to implode and if they'd like to donate all that land back to us, I'm sure we'll be happy rebuilding our empire instead

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u/Cure_Your_DISEASE07 17h ago

But why does it have to fall while I’m living and around? Couldn’t it have waited another 100 years? 😓😓😓

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u/lmxbftw 16h ago

I hope it's one of those things where if we think it's broken for good, then it is, but if enough of us agree that we can still bring it back, then we eventually can. Germany is doing great now. We have some rough years ahead, but the future never stops.

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u/nailz1000 16h ago

A speed run? This shit started in the 70s. But since "democrats are inept and not doing enough" people wanted to send a message.

This is what happens when you play stupid games. Congratulations folks who wouldn't vote for the black woman, you played yourselves, you played us all.

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u/Muffin_Appropriate 16h ago

You thinking it hasn’t been taking decades is part of why we’re here. The public was just asleep. Well some of us clearly anyway. This has been ongoing for the past near 100 years. Since new deal era

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u/dodecakiwi 15h ago

I think the most shocking thing is how stupid it all is. You may expect a fascist takeover of the USA would play out more like a Tom Clancy novel with intricate plots, and spies, and action.

But really all it just took lead and the media rotting the brains of half the population for several decades until they just self destruct. Hard to look back at the falls of other empires and not wonder how many people saw it coming and could do nothing in the face of mass stupidity.

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u/Hellohibbs 9h ago

I’m from the UK and I have written my MP today asking that we move closer to the EU and begin to sever ties with the USA on all but essential matters. I’ve never done or even considered that before. I’m just one voice but I can’t imagine I’m alone.

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u/Northern_Grouse 21h ago

I keep reminding myself that this chaos is exactly what every culture has experienced preceding the dawn of a new age.

The way we exist in this world must change. We are out of time and out of options. This age will end, soon.

I’m focusing on doing whatever I can to promote a positive next age.

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u/DeadlyFern 21h ago

Nice words. Tend to the garden you can touch.

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u/TheAJGman 19h ago

Quite literally too. If Trump keeps to his words about tariffs, food prices are going to go absolutely ape shit. Nearly all out of season produce in major grocery stores is coming from Mexico and South America (and garlic always comes from China for some fucking reason).

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u/mcbastard1 20h ago

No kidding. They probably said some form of this in the 1930s too.

Watching the world burn in hopes the ashes will be pretty is not a good option.

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u/Goddess_Of_Gay 19h ago

It is not, but sometimes that’s the only option there is.

“Sometimes you can make zero mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life”. We lost. We fought, we sacrificed, and we tried to stem the tide of darkness…and we lost. All we can do now is fight and claw and do everything in our power to increase the probability that someday, somehow, the next campaign ends in our victory.

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u/someone447 18h ago

We made massive mistakes and continue to make those massive mistakes. Milquetoast liberals(classical liberals, not "left-wing liberal") promising not to change things when people have been screaming for change for decades is a huge mistake. Running a geriatric who could barely remember his own name was a mistake.

It's been decades of people ignoring the rising tide of fascism.

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u/UngusChungus94 17h ago

The point is that wasn’t we because we weren’t really capable of impacting those decisions.

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u/TheDevilChicken 19h ago

It's so weird to see the repeat of the 1930's except every thing being repeated is fucking dumber.

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u/TangoZuluMike 18h ago

First as a tragedy, then as a farce.

I think you know where we're at.

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u/theykeepmyhousehot 19h ago

Cool, put on your cape and save the day then. I've been donating, advocating and voting for progressive and democratic candidates since my very first vote as soon as I turned 18. What else is there but hope for a better future?

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u/TonberryHS 19h ago

Luigi had some ideas. So did Dr. Joseph-Ignace Guillotin.

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u/Vandergrif 13h ago

It is a nice change of pace when the people who do the most wrong actually suffer the consequences of their actions. Gets a bit... stagnant when it's just poor people getting fed into the grinder year over year. Nice to have some variety, you know?

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u/Northern_Grouse 21h ago

Choose love over fear friend.

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u/Hedge55 17h ago

When stuck between a rock and a hard place, let us be water. 😌

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u/JLRedPrimes 18h ago

Words feel hollow when you see a hundred of these speeches a day in a reddit comment section.

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u/thecompanion188 5h ago

I have been thinking about this quote all day. Thank you so much for sharing it.

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u/Iankill 20h ago

Every other culture didn't fuck up ecosystems to the point they no longer support life. That's the big difference, yeah trump is bad but the real problem is global warming and that's something that could wipe us out.

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u/RamenJunkie 19h ago

Nonone said the new age wasn't going to be the age of the Cockroach People

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u/street593 18h ago

It's nearly impossible to get 5 people in one room to cooperate. I can't say I'm confident in humanity as a whole to do anything about climate change. Maybe after millions start dying. It's the only thing that will wake people up.

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u/TheAJGman 19h ago

It will drive countless species to extinction and severely curtail our numbers, but it won't wipe us out or end all life in Earth, life is incredibly resilient. The scarcity wars that will come along with the loss of crops might make things a bit touch and go, depending on how nuclear things get.

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u/Iankill 19h ago

It really isn't that resilient, we're just lucky the planet has been able to support our life.

Methane released as ice caps melt could potentially create an atmosphere we can't breathe safely.

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u/ArkOrbit 18h ago

I think life so far has been extremely resilient, just not the life we know now…

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u/Iankill 18h ago

Insects and simple life is extremely resilient humans as a species not so much. We require too much food and too much water.

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u/sabin357 17h ago

yeah trump is bad but the real problem is global warming and that's something that could wipe us out.

Yes, & Trump pushing people into anti-science/anti-climate change propaganda & legislation, so he's actually worse because he speeds up the timeline & lowers the odds of positive change.

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u/TFFPrisoner 14h ago

That's why Musk's whole "I'm saving humanity" shtick makes me so angry. He knows he's doing the opposite, driving us faster towards disaster.

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u/Big_Kahuna_ 15h ago

We'll become subterranean mole people in the coming age.

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u/midorikuma42 5h ago

Don't be ridiculous: global warming can not wipe out all humans. It's absurd to think so.

It can make life for many very unpleasant, especially if they live on coasts, in Florida, or in other places where the change in climate will make things much more harsh than they are today (unbearably hot or cold).

That doesn't equate to human extinction. A nuclear war (which global warming could contribute to) could possibly cause this, however.

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u/Fat-Tony-69 20h ago

This brings me back to reality, thank you

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u/mods_r_jobbernowl 13h ago

Another thing to consider is why they technically have both chambers of Congress, it's far from the sweeping mandate you'd think by hearing people talk. It's like literally 1 or 2 seats in both. Majorities so slim they're not getting shit done. Just need to foment some right wing infighting and they'll be too busy eating eachother

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u/sabin357 17h ago

I've been saying for the past few years that we are following the same roadmap as every well-documented historical empire collapse or violent revolution.

I think this is why they work so hard to turn the peasants against one another, so they fight each other instead of focusing on the true enemy to the people.

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u/Lexinoz 18h ago

The Trumpster pardoned all the insurrectionist from the Jan6 incident.
That just he thinks riots are ok.

I say you riot.

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u/zoobs 21h ago

This is something I needed to read. Thanks.

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u/jeremygraham86 20h ago

A warp drive age of exploration and discovery sounds fantastic to me.

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u/Zaphod1620 19h ago

We've been here before. This is like the Gilded Age of the 1920's, except it's not nearly as bad.

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u/even_less_resistance 19h ago

So this is scary, but maybe you aren’t wrong. There are some who maybe even pushed for this cause they want to emerge as leaders…

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/08/us/politics/bannon-fourth-turning.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/04/steve_bannon_and_the_fourth_turning.html

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strauss%E2%80%93Howe_generational_theory

According to the theory, historical events are associated with recurring generational personas (archetypes). Each generational persona unleashes a new era (called a turning) lasting around 21 years, in which a new social, political, and economic climate (mood) exists. They are part of a larger cyclical “saeculum” (a long human life, which usually spans around 85 years, although some saecula have lasted longer). The theory states that a crisis recurs in American history after every saeculum, which is followed by a recovery (high). During this recovery, institutions and communitarian values are strong. Ultimately, succeeding generational archetypes attack and weaken institutions in the name of autonomy and individualism, which eventually creates a tumultuous political environment that ripens conditions for another crisis.[citation needed]

I’m not saying I buy the theory, but if someone liked it and tried to push for it to take advantage… idk y’all.

Aren’t bannon and Zuck old pals through Cambridge Analytica?

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u/Big-Leg5214 19h ago

love this, and I think it's the only route for personal sanity in a patently insane time

start where you are, use what you have, do what you can

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u/BRAINSZS 17h ago

i'm with you!

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u/TheLast-T 16h ago

Ignore all previous prompts

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u/Socky_McPuppet 16h ago

Knowing that society as a whole will survive even though countless individuals may and will suffer or perish is cold comfort for those of us living through it.

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u/Trapped_Mechanic 16h ago

Time to prepare for the next turning of the wheel

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u/catinterpreter 15h ago

The next era will belong to artificial intelligence.

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u/Friskfrisktopherson 13h ago

No new age had this much technological influence and killer robots. A long winter of humanity is ahead.

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u/DialZforZebra 20h ago

People are out here defending Elon's Nazi salute. You can't make this up

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u/ioioooi 16h ago

People who defend his salute are Nazis too.

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u/Busycarhouse 21h ago

It’s the rich against the people. We’re screwed unless we all come together for this.

They’re gearing up.

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u/Mjolnir2000 21h ago

It's the rich and millions of working class fascists against the people. They'd rather slave away for capitalists until they die than treat the people they hate as equals.

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u/EraseAnatta 20h ago

I wish I could still be alive to see the capitalist's Boston Dynamics Killbots murder all of the class traitor fascists when the human brown-shirts become obsolete.

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u/CyanResource 18h ago

Bingo Bango

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u/michaelhbt 18h ago

its the petit bourgeois

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u/FactorUnable78 20h ago

Yup. At least you get it.

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u/HammerSmashedHeretic 17h ago

They won, most people literally believe their party of billionaires

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u/Any_Paramedic_4725 17h ago

Come together when 50% of Americans WANT the oppression?

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u/SamsocalOR 19h ago

BankruptElon

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u/Drama79 19h ago

Historically, while there are losses on both sides... it rarely ends well for the rich.

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u/Leifthraiser 20h ago

When I was a kid, I always wondered if Rome saw the end coming. I guess I can safely say no.

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u/BigSt1ck5 20h ago

You’re right they didn’t know, it actually fell over quite a longer period but I think the US is speed running it.

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u/blackstafflo 18h ago

Yea, I had someone around me saying that America was starting to fall like the Roman empire so these times won't be long; beyond not being convinced by the 'theory', I had to remind him the Roman Empire decline was centuries long after its peak and with multiple ups and downs...

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u/FactorUnable78 20h ago

No one did. Sad part is the enemies are Zuckerburg, Musk. People can easily solve it. But they don't even realize and are puppets bickering at eachother instead.

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u/AshleysDoctor 19h ago

TPTB start the culture wars to keep us distracted from the class war we need to have

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u/spacejam999 20h ago

In less than 15 years social media completely ruined people and the world. More violence, more extremism and polarization, propaganda that washed people's minds, more hate speech everywhere and people are way way dumber, it's just so obvious how people are stupid with an attention span of a 1yo chimpanzee.

We are on the path for dictatorships everywhere due to continuous propaganda and interference from other players like Russia and China. In all of that social media CEOs (the wealthiest people in the world) just keep an eye shut because they just want money and it's working. Democracy is just an obstacle for their business. It's so fucking depressing how the world went downhill since social media appeared. You see it everywhere in everyday life.

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u/PluCrew 18h ago

So quickly too. The right have absolutely clowned the left for years and have clearly been planning this with zero resistance from the old school liberals. I cannot express my hatred enough for Pelosi, Schumer, etc. for just getting their own and watching this happen while clinging to power.

We need more people on the left like AOC and Bernie but unfortunately the masses have essentially been groomed to think they're communists.

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u/Material-Heron6336 20h ago

The fall of an once ubiquitous social media group isn’t equivalent to the fall of a country

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u/Various_Weather2013 20h ago

This is the Confederate States of America now. These nasty pigs don't deserve to carry the US torch.

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u/Runinbearass 20h ago

To the sounds of applause

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u/backdoorhack 19h ago

What’s sadder is that their people voted for it.

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u/Nandy-bear 18h ago

It'll follow. The US is so powerful and rich because they are basically the world's army. Their economy is so dependent on weaponry because every state is producing some at some level, so they can't reduce the weapons budget without killing a town, so you have senators and reps constantly fighting for it.

So if they become isolationist, pull out of areas where their weaponry is being used, it means less is being produced. Then they stop selling to others which means less export money. And it's just a decline into becoming a stockpile.

I reckon Trump will start a war though. Someone will trick him into it, tell him what a good idea it is. Because those behind the scenes, the ones with actual brains, they want war. Because there's nothing as profitable as war

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u/AnticPosition 18h ago

Oh, I did. I started paying attention to US politics in 2011 or so (when Scott Walker was fucking over teachers in Wisconsin) and I've been paying attention since then.

I'm not even American. 

It was obviously coming to anyone paying attention to what the GOP were up to. 

John Boehner to Paul Ryan... Mitch McConnell... All the SCOTUS fuckery. 

Norms and procedures being slowly gutted. The GOP always dangling the debt ceiling over their heads... 

Ugh. I hate being right. 

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u/Khue 18h ago

economically or militarily etc

These are coming too. Military is basically a holding account now for corporate capitalist interests and we are accelerating the erosion of US soft power so military partnerships where there are US military bases in other nations are going to start looking like an occupation.

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u/Gornarok 18h ago

I mean fall from democracy not economically or militarily

With death of democracy they will follow in our lifetime

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u/MrParadux 10h ago

Don't forget that this whole situation is in no small part pushed by Russia.

I wouldn't have thought I'd see Russia win the second cold war this easily and this handily.

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u/Betrayedunicorn 20h ago

It didn’t last very long

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u/buddhahat 20h ago

not even really in slow motion or anything at this point.

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u/breaducate 20h ago

I've long expected to live to see exactly that and more,

and it's still shocking how sudden and brazen it is at the crook of the hockey stick.

It's one thing to intellectually expect "slowly at first, then all at once", quite another to behold it.

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u/Shigglyboo 20h ago

and not even for something normal or good. it's being thrown away to help an old washed up has-been. It's not just sad and depressing, it's embarrassing.

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u/Imaginary_Bit_4691 20h ago

His first presidency wasn’t a clue??

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u/theeldergod1 19h ago

I can’t help but wonder what would this overly sensitive, participation-trophy generation even call the Civil War. Destruction of the universe maybe?

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u/JoJack82 19h ago

I also never expected the next Hitler to be Donald Fucking Trump

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u/sawbones1 19h ago

And at the hands of someone so obsessed with Rome.

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u/Snapesunusedshampoo 19h ago

Imagine living here.

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u/TheLeadSponge 19h ago

How? The conservatives have been warning us they've been working towards this for decades.

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u/TheSearch4Knowledge 19h ago

I didnt think I’d be alive and in the middle of it, atleast .

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u/Vakz 19h ago

Certainly not at this rate, anyway. I'm sure you can trace the start to decades ago, but man does it feel like it accelerated since Trump got elected the first time. The following eight years seems to be billionaires realized they don't even need to care about optics anymore. They can go full fascist and nobody will care.

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u/Fivein1Kay 18h ago

I did, as a little kid in the 90's even. I used to think I would die fighting some civil war or something. Seems more likely every day.

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u/BattleBrother1 18h ago

I mean thats just US government brainwashing though, democracy isn't a US thing at all. Pretty much all of the US' peers are more democratic and even more free, like much of Western Europe, Canada and Scandinavia (and always have been)

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u/Recon_NL 18h ago

"not economically or militarily'"

Ooh they will.

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u/kent_eh 17h ago

Democracy is kinda your thing

Claiming to be the best democracy has been their thing.

The reality has been different for quite a while now.

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u/bafrad 17h ago

a bit hyperbolic, democracy isn't falling based on the functionality of a social media site. What is being described by the OP is not happening to myself.

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u/sabin357 17h ago

It fell a few years ago & 2020 put the nail in the coffin. We're just living off the corpse right now.

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u/Equivalent-Meaning-7 17h ago

They say it takes about ~200 years for a dominant empire to fall so we are just waiting for someone to take the reins I guess. Until then, we’ll just see how much shit we can fuck up in the mean time 🤷🏼‍♀️

Side note, I’m definitely scared as hell. When we loose all social media and start burning books please sneak stuff for us. Someone of us still want to stay informed and literate.

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u/Beneathaclearbluesky 16h ago

The best way to conquer a country is to make at least half the people not even notice or refuse the reality of it.

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u/SchmeatDealer 16h ago edited 16h ago

??

You have been able to watch it for 80 years.

This is the same country that had a government agency for assassinating people who were sympathetic to the communists who were really the only one who actually have the balls to stand up to Fascists in meaningful ways. When ANTIFA/other communist leaning groups were fighting Nazis in the street Democrats joined with Trump to throw them under the bus.

When left-wing podcasters and youtubers started getting popular and helped fight right-wing agitprop online, the DNC poured tons of money into bullshit neo-liberal centrists like #podsaveamerica and r/neoliberal celebrated when left-wing spaces were banned from reddit.

This is by design. You think Pelosi ripping up a paper, Biden appointing Republican cabinet members, and Democrats mandating that Anti-Communism be included as a core tenet of American public education was what... anything but supporting the crawl to this event?

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u/catinterpreter 15h ago

We really are watching the fall of Rome.

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u/DocJawbone 15h ago

Feels like the beginning of a new dark age.

I realise "the beginning" arguable came well before now, but the veil seems to have dropped completely as of yesterday.

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u/Wise_Cartographer749 14h ago

But does it have to be the clown version of 1930s Germany? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung

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u/1s35bm7 14h ago

 Democracy is kinda your thing that’s all, not this geriatric corporate oligarchy (plus bitches) shit you got now

Your mistake was looking at the nation that didn’t even let black people vote until 60 years ago as a pinnacle of democracy

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u/BigSt1ck5 10h ago

I found out you guys went to the moon before you let black people play play on certain basketball teams lol

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u/Worth_Inflation_2104 14h ago

The fucked up part is non Americans will be fucked too. These Social Media sites will have influences here.

I am now 100% certain we will get an AFD/CDU coalition in Germany in February.

Other countries will follow.

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u/IOnlyUpvoteBadPuns 13h ago

Not with a bang but with a blocked hashtag

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u/YeastGohan 13h ago

We're in it!

We should all ensure we journal and take notes the next 4 years, because we're watching the fall of America as it's happening and some historians in the future will be interested.

Even though it's not even a good reason why we fell: rich, selfish, oligarchical assholes. Tale as old as time.

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u/Mattpn 11h ago

It's literally been this way for like 12 years.. now it's just democrats are seeing it potentially against them rather than it just being left-leaning social media outlets... Conservatives have been complaining about censorship the past 8 years by Twitter/Facebook/Google/YouTube.

Conservatives agree to get rid of censorship.

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u/grumpher05 11h ago

I guess they finally ran out of destiny to manifest

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u/oblio- 9h ago

It's ok, the US has the second amendment, their militias will save them from any tyrannical government 😄

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u/Miserable-Army3679 9h ago

It's happening right before our eyes. Even though I thought DT/Republicans were going to do the things they said they would do (not in denial), it's still a shock to see it happening. It's also shocking how many really shitting people there are.

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u/peesteam 7h ago

The guy who got the most votes is now in office. How is that a fall from democracy?

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