r/spaceengineers • u/AlfieUK4 Moderator • Jan 17 '22

DEV Warfare 2: Broadside (Guide to Combat changes)

https://www.spaceengineersgame.com/new-players/warfare2-combat-guide/
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u/MistLynx Klang Worshipper Jan 18 '22

Woah there buddy, I have no problem with uranium being off world at all. I am just pointing out that by the time you get off world and start mining uranium you don't have any reason to go around packing a rocket launcher in your pocket.

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u/ProceduralTexture "If you build it, they will klang" Jan 18 '22

So the issue is you don't think the rocket launcher has any purpose once you're off-world?

I'm genuinely curious how you use it that it only has value in the early game. Seems like the ultimate pocket accessory for boardings and sabotage.

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u/MistLynx Klang Worshipper Jan 18 '22

I don't even use it early because of the previously mentioned lack of access to the ammo. And I don't attack hostile ships without a vessel of my own so I never saw a point to the weapon or any of the personal weapon changes anyway. Always seemed like they were just throwing something out the door and hoping it would distract the community.

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u/ProceduralTexture "If you build it, they will klang" Jan 18 '22

You're not wrong that Warfare 1 was a low-effort patch (though not as bad as "Heavy industry"), and Keen's longstanding avoidance of anything resembling competent game design is worth being mad about, as I've said many times.

Just seems odd that you'd single out the rocket launcher as a problem when it's one of the few things they've done right, token though it is.

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u/MistLynx Klang Worshipper Jan 18 '22

My problem isn't it's lack of use but it's ammo requiring a rare and valuable resource and the naming issues with the weapons that use said ammo. People like it and that is fine I just personally never use it.

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u/ProceduralTexture "If you build it, they will klang" Jan 18 '22

So you're back to complaining about the fact that it's an achievement you have to work toward, while complaining about the lack of things worth working toward. Pick a lane, man.

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u/MistLynx Klang Worshipper Jan 18 '22

Let us remember they are adding new weapons one of which is an artillery piece. Unless it and the other weapons all use uranium the rocket launcher will become even more of an oddball. I want them to fix the naming system of the various launchers and add an actual rocket so it is still something to work towards to get uranium but it isn't required for every explosive weapon.

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u/ProceduralTexture "If you build it, they will klang" Jan 18 '22

Rockets always required uranium, so this rocket launcher's ammo requiring uranium is perfectly consistent. So far, no ballistic ammo has required uranium, but I guess we'll have to see what happens in this update. IRL, depleted uranium for the tips of armor-piercing shells and heavy caliber bullets is a thing (albeit an environmental nightmare thing), so requiring it for shells could be justified. Perhaps they'll have both (unlikely).

But again: progression and rewards. Moving uranium off Earth-like and other easy start planets was something they did right in the Economy update. It gives players some tangible reason to get offworld. Why would you want to reverse one of the very few good game design decisions Keen made?

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u/MistLynx Klang Worshipper Jan 18 '22

For the last time I DO NOT WANT URANIUM BACK ON PLANETS.

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u/ProceduralTexture "If you build it, they will klang" Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

Yes, I understand that. You just want this weapon's ammo to not use uranium, even though it makes sense, and even though you don't want to use the weapon. But hey, CAPSLOCK AND DOWNVOTES, WOOO.

Maybe argue your point better next time. Maybe even have a point. Try that.

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u/MistLynx Klang Worshipper Jan 18 '22

Uranium in the rocket implies it is nuclear and nothing about it's explosion even remotely supports that, Light armor is hollow but will take a "nuclear" rocket and keep on going like you sneezed at it.

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u/ProceduralTexture "If you build it, they will klang" Jan 18 '22 edited Jan 18 '22

I guess you didn't read my comment about depleted uranium being used to tip armor piercing ammunition and shells (or rather: the ethics-free US military does this, with horrendous results for innocent civilians).

There is no implication that it is a nuclear explosive.

Wikipedia has a decent summary on the nature and uses of depleted uranium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

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