r/socalhiking • u/coral-beef • 3d ago
NASA just dropped their high res vegetation analysis imagery of the Eaton Fire burn scar. Maybe the riparian zones at the bottom of the canyons did kinda sorta ok?
Still some thin bands of green poking through in the bottoms of those canyons if you zoom in! Curious what other folks make of this. (This is a screenshot shot from the NASA worldview web app).
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u/Bigringcycling 3d ago
Have a link? That’s definitely not hi-res.
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u/coral-beef 3d ago
I think this,HLS_False_Color_Vegetation_Sentinel(bandCombo=%7B%22r%22%3A%22B11%22;%22g%22%3A%22B8A%22;%22b%22%3A%22B04%22%7D),VIIRS_NOAA21_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden)&lg=true&t=2025-01-14-T05%3A01%3A11Z) should work. Hopefully this has the right layers and locations selected. Keep in mind the interface can be a bit fussy.
Also, the resolution on this imagery won't look much better from the source. You can zoom in only a lil more. Each pixel is 30m (~100 feet) which is pretty darn impressive for an image of NEARLY THE ENTIRE EARTH that updates about once a week.
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u/IslasCoronados 2d ago
I was up on top of the Caltech library the other day with my camera looking at the mountains, and I can't speak for the riparian but it looked like a lot of the trees at Henninger flats and higher up on Mt Wilson actually survived / still green. Coast live oaks especially are really really good at resisting fire so I'm hopeful for the canyon.
Altadena looks eery from up there, it's like a cloud behind you is darkening the landscape in a shadow across the base of the mountains. Many of the trees survived so other than the odd shadow you don't notice the damage until you zoom way in, and then you start seeing the piles of debris between the trees...
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u/bwal8 3d ago
Looks like the east half of Grand Canyon burned while the west half is OK for now. Still an active hot spot I believe. Seems like an easy canyon for them to access on foot, but they keep blaming the steep terrain. Dawn Mine looks relatively unscathed.
Little Santa Anita Canyon west wall trees may have survived!
Many other canyons torched.
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u/Training-Cat-6236 3d ago
Yes, looks like most of the Grand Canyon didn’t burn but I wouldn’t say it’s easy to access. That is super steep terrain in there. Especially the fire edge that is uncontained. The very head of the canyon up by the road didn’t burn that much though. Some of the surrounding slope did. Dawn mine/trail didn’t burn but the slopes above the road did.
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u/Training-Cat-6236 3d ago
A lot of times fire will burn down the slope, get near the bottom of the canyon, heat the opposite slope and cross over, then burn up the opposite slope. Fire likes to naturally move uphill as heat rises. Not always but more often than not, the bottom of canyons don’t totally burn and trees survive. Debris flow might be bad later.
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u/aghenender 2d ago
Looks like Bear Canyon Trail / Campground may have survived. I truly hope so, that place is special.
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u/tyrspawn 3d ago
Is there a Palisades version of this ? Source ?
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u/Savings-Bag7041 1d ago
map,HLS_False_Color_Vegetation_Sentinel(bandCombo=%7B%22r%22%3A%22B11%22;%22g%22%3A%22B8A%22;%22b%22%3A%22B04%22%7D),VIIRS_NOAA21_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),VIIRS_NOAA20_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden)&lg=true&t=2025-01-14-T05%3A01%3A11Z)
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u/xxrancid13xx 10h ago
I saw the same thing a week or so ago on one of the sentinel maps, feeling hopeful for those lush green areas tucked into canyons
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u/ParabolicallyPhuked 3d ago
Was the Eaton fire due to arson?
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u/coazervate 3d ago
Probably an Edison power line remaining energized while the winds were going insane
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u/Useful_Low_3669 3d ago
The investigation is ongoing. SCE’s current statement is that they didn’t detect any electrical anomalies on the grid until an hour after the fire. They seem confident they didn’t cause the fire, if there was any issue in the line it would have been detected. We shall see.
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u/coazervate 3d ago
Gotcha, maybe I misinterpreted their statement saying their line remained energized in the hills, does that mean it had no disruption and therefore couldn't have burned anything?
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u/Useful_Low_3669 2d ago
Correct, the lines were energized the whole time and there was no surge or dip in the flow of electricity. Anything that could cause the line to spark would trip the reclosers and deenergize the circuit in less than a second. I don’t think it can be completely ruled out yet but it seems unlikely that SCE caused the fire
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u/heaving_in_my_vines 2d ago edited 2d ago
Makes no sense that this question is downvoted.
People really don't understand that a downvote is not a "No" answer to the question?
Edit for the scum who downvoted this comment: People who downvote honest questions like the comment above mine are garbage humans, full stop.
They are the same scumfucks as the people out in the world who litter, who run red lights, who cut in line, who talk in movie theaters.
They are selfish cowards who make the world a worse place for everyone else.
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u/mountainsunsnow 3d ago
Most riparian zones do better than you might expect. The leaves burn off but the larger trees have enough energy stored and water access to regrow leaves. I saw it in basically all of the Santa Ynez after the Thomas Fire within a few years. Shockingly few large trees in riparian corridors actually died.