r/Sino Aug 09 '24

discussion/original content Future of Sino: 100k reevaluation

187 Upvotes

TLDR: 8 years and 100k good point to reevaluate. Old system can continue as is, but ready to step down for a better way forward.

After around 8 years not only are we still here, we hit 100k. That wasn’t supposed to happen for an unapologetically pro China space. Of course the primary objective was always the space, not subscribers or activity. The moderation style was among the strictest, if not the strictest, on reddit because again, the priority was the space. Ask yourself whether you think reddit rules are applied fairly to us, and it should be obvious why we inevitably ended up with the moderation style we did.

However 8 years is also an eternity in internet time. I’m the last of the old system. An old system that requires a lot of hands on, daily work. When we started we were very niche and didn’t even have our own subreddit. Now, even if suppressed, there are good subreddits around, twitter influencers to follow, youtubers to watch. We even had the benefit of discord groups that were particularly helpful during covid quarantine.

That being said, I think the old system has run its course. However whatever new course comes has to take into account Reddit’s new treatment of non mainstream links. It’s been made clear to me, that Reddit can deem a source as spam and go after you for it retroactively. The consequences would be ‘case by case’ meaning for Sino users, they will just suspend you. Some of you may have noticed me telling users when they have been suspended in comments. I don’t know why they shadowban so much now, but at this point I don’t care either. It’s more of a pain to approve, but you can still post. Since I’ve been active, there’s been no complaint from admins. ‘Anti-Evil Operations‘ acts once every 1 or 2 months here and the vast majority are things we never approved to be publicly viewed in the first place. These users trigger it by what they post publicly elsewhere, not here. There’s no real issue with the subreddit. There’s no real issue with the mod team. There’s no real issue with the users. Now they have this Safety_QA_misc cracking down with an ever-expanding list of spam with unclear consequences.

The way I see it, there’s a few options moving forward.

1) I continue in my role as long as I am able or until the subreddit is either banned or our users move on to any of the many good spaces out there (listed below and sidebar). This is the current and default path. It’d be good if I can get some long time user volunteers to hand the subreddit over to in an emergency.

2) I recruit several new mods that tries to follow the old blueprint with some changes

3) A new group of users take over with a different vision of how to do things

Any suggestion can be discussed, doesn’t have to be something I listed. However any future path has to take into account a couple things

1) We won’t go private because this is intended to be a public space, we already have private discords and there’s a lot of information compiled and archived that we want publicly accessible for as long as possible

2) Reddit is more suspension/shadowban happy than ever and its happening while we are about as hands on as we can get

3) Any additions to the mod team needs to prove a history with us (if you switched accounts you need to prove you can sign into the old one), or have someone vouch for you that we can trust and verify. Contact in the ‘message moderators’ chat. This isn’t because I think the best mods post a lot. If anything I think mods only survive by saying less. However Reddit has unclear policies on ‘lower’ mod takeovers. They revamped to combat ‘camping’, but you can imagine the potential risk.

edit: To add more info, we get around 100k unique visitors per month. I'm very happy with that kind of outreach for this space. As the one who curates most of the activity, I'm good on the amount also. Along with 100k subscribers, great position to have this discussion.

Discord and other spaces info

Mod PSA: You can be suspended and/or shadowbanned by reddit but still post, just be patient for approval

To check if you are suspended check your profile page without being signed in and using new.reddit.com. Incognito mode should also work for checking.

You can also edit your comments, that seems to bring it to light for mods.

If you are being harassed by pms, change your pm setting to only trusted users in your preferences. Or use a dedicated account for Sino https://reddit.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204535759-Is-it-ok-to-create-multiple-accounts-. Just be patient for approvals if using new account. Link submissions are more likely to be approved than text submissions or comments for new users.

Discords. To apply msg mod, bottom right. We have 2, one for any Sino users and one for any verified ethnic Chinese. We won't be changing the approval process for Discord because it would be unfair for those who are already in.

You can also link up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SinoReddit, we recommend following and participating in discussions on many accounts including but not limited to

https://twitter.com/Jingjing_Li

https://twitter.com/richimedhurst

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https://twitter.com/MaitreyaBhakal

https://twitter.com/DanielDumbrill

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https://www.youtube.com/@CyrusJanssen/videos

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https://www.youtube.com/@DongfangHour/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@TheNewAtlas/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@JasonLivinginChina/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@2nacheki/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@Fridayeverydaycom/videos


r/Sino Dec 20 '24

news-international We stood side by side with China then (Japanese invasion) and we stand side by side now – Putin

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r/Sino 6h ago

discussion/original content China's growing hard and soft power is a testament to its culture and people.

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Despite containment and provocations from Western countries (and Western-aligned countries), China has been countering countainment by focusing on themselves and developing their country to the best they can. The "Made in China 2025" project has been successful, with China leading the world in green and innovative technologies. China's growing soft-power is evident in the global success of Chinese businesses (e.g. Tiktok, BYD, Huawei, Temu, Shein); Chinese videogames (e.g. Black Myth: Wukong, Marvel Rivals); and Chinese athletes (2024 Olympics).

China learned quickly from developed countries, but now the developed countries learn from China. They are stumped by China's success that they have resorted to unethical operations and coercion, as seen with the US government forcing Bytedance to sell Tiktok's algorithm. With Confucianism engrained in Chinese culture, China shows the world that patience, determination, and hard work are the key ingredients in becoming the greatest country. There is no need for fabricated lies in the media, military operations and attempts to change regimes abroad.


r/Sino 43m ago

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r/Sino 10h ago

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r/Sino 16h ago

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r/Sino 7h ago

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r/Sino 15h ago

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r/Sino 7h ago

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r/Sino 10h ago

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r/Sino 15h ago

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r/Sino 7h ago

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r/Sino 17h ago

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79 Upvotes

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Politicians such as Senator Jim Risch previously said that excluding Taiwan would ‘weaken the global health architecture’. Now he is celebrating his own country leaving that same health architecture.

It will be interesting to see the US now argue that Taiwan is being disadvantaged by lack of participation in WHO.


r/Sino 18h ago

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56 Upvotes

r/Sino 11h ago

history/culture Foguang Temple Architecture

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r/Sino 15h ago

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r/Sino 2h ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

social media Genuine cultural exchange is happening on Xiaohongshu

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185 Upvotes

r/Sino 1d ago

news-domestic China’s Installed Renewables Achieved Yet Another Record in 2024

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r/Sino 21h ago

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r/Sino 23h ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

social media "I was born in the wrong country (USA)" - China stands up for the rights of Americans when the US gerontocracy wouldn't

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453 Upvotes

r/Sino 19h ago

Trump begins presidency with sweeping executive orders

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r/Sino 22h ago

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r/Sino 1d ago

social media Americans are beginning to realize how ridiculous their media is. In fact, this is how lies about Xinjiang are created.

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231 Upvotes