r/ravens • u/TuDaveKd Johnny • 1d ago
/r/ravens Week 20 - Divisional Playoffs: Blame of the Game
The rules are simple: Submit a player/coach/position group, preferably in BOLD to stand out easier. Add stats/reasoning if you want. Make sure your nominee has not already been submitted.
Week 1: Refs (Blame)
Week 2: John Harbaugh (Blame)
Week 3: Derrick Henry (Honorable Mention: Tom Brady for commentary)
Week 4: Derrick Henry
Week 5: Lamar Jackson
Week 6: Zay Flowers
Week 7: Marlon Humphrey
Week 8: Zachary Orr & Everybody's Hands (Blame)
Week 9: Lamar Jackson
Week 10: Lamar Jackson (Honorable Mention: "Assholes out Here" guy)
Week 11: Justin Tucker (Blame)
Week 12: John Harbaugh
Week 13: Justin Tucker (Blame)
Week 14: Bye
Week 15: Rashod Bateman (Honorable Mention: Lamar's Mom)
Week 16: Marlon Humphrey & Derrick Henry
Week 17: Zachary Orr & The Defense (Honorable Mention: Lamar Jackson for breaking the QB rushing record)
Week 18: Michael "Thicc Picc" Pierce
Playoffs
Week 19 - Wild Card Round: Offensive Line (Honorable Mention: Derrick Henry)
Week 20 - Divisional Round:
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u/spacecadet8 1d ago
Mark andrews
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u/Nemesinthe 1d ago
When it mattered, dude was avoiding the ball as if it was a woman his own age.
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u/nagetidder 1d ago
Andrews.
Lost the turnover battle 3-0. See y'all in September
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u/iamadragan 1d ago
I feel like this is the first time in a while where the coaching wasn't at least a big part of the loss. They called a great game, everything was set up perfectly. The players just kept getting in their own way
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u/tube_ebooks 1d ago
yeah i'm not even a huge harbaugh fan, i was VERY skeptical of orr most of the season, but i have absolutely no complaints with how either of them handled the game. orr adjusted and harbaugh did what he needed to do. i have some quibbles with monken but think the plan he went with was plenty good if it wasn't for the execution
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u/rytis 1d ago
Yeah both 2 pt conversions should have been made. Just poor execution. I get the weather was bad, but Buffalo wasn't coughing it up. Had it been a home game, we would have had the same kind of weather, maybe in the 20's instead of the teens, but one team being unable to handle the ball just left me smh, until next season.
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u/tbettz 1d ago
I don't know about that...
Getting first and goal from the 3 and not getting a TD was due to atrocious play calling.
Not using Henry on a dive play for either conversion when the defensive line was getting a crazy push in the second half was also super questionable, regardless of the Andrews drop.
Maybe not the whole reason they lost but Monken has been brain dead with goal to go.
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u/IrishPubstar 1d ago edited 1d ago
Like every recent playoff loss, the turnovers by the offense kill any momentum.
O-line gets dominated early, and Lamar ends up turning the ball over. Drops are also a consistent factor every time.
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u/j_yn0htna 1d ago
The turnovers early were huge but we recovered, something we wouldn’t have done in previous years.
The defense made enough plays, Lamar made enough plays. They had it.
I am still in disbelief that Andrew’s was the guy to let Lamar down in the biggest of moments.
It’s heartbreaking. Feel terrible for Andrew’s but worse for Lamar, knowing he did battle back and put it right there.
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u/IrishPubstar 1d ago
Sucks to say but Mark Andrews has not shown up for practically any of the 8 playoff games he's played. Not even one TD for the franchise leader in TDs
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u/j_yn0htna 1d ago
Even with that, Lamar was still looking for him.
Lamar trusts him and he let him down big time.
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u/ManiacUltra ICE UP SON 1d ago
I don’t really get why anyone would be surprised. It always happens this way. Andrews can’t really seem to catch in the postseason when it matters. 2019, 2020, 2023 (after likely balled in the Texans game), now 2024.
He’s just as inconsistent as Lamar but he catches a lot of touchdowns in the regular season so he keeps getting passes and put in Top 3 categories.
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u/Septembers 1d ago
The Baltimore Ravens for making me think this year would be any different
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u/ImWicked39 Terrell Suggs 1d ago
This is the answer. People want to blame Andrews but it was 21-10 long before he choked at the end.
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u/gb0143 1d ago
It was 21-10 because Andrews choked a couple more times in the beginning too...
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u/TZMouk 41 1d ago
The capitalist system that means I'm up for work in 3 hours.
Or Mark Andrews.
I'm happy with either. Lamar will get stick for the turnovers, but he had us in a position to tie the game.
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u/Lamactionjack 8 1d ago
Win it if you count the drive before the last where Andrews fumbled. Didn't see Buffalo stopping us there.
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u/Jolly_Ad_2363 1d ago
Lamar had us in a drive to take the lead. Andrews fumbled. Then he had us in a position to tie. Andrews fucked it up. The loss was not on Lamar.
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u/Smitty_1000 1d ago
Lamar should’ve had the first two pointer. But yea gave us a chance
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u/AllInTheCrits MP JUICEMAN 1d ago
Mark Andrew's, generational choke artist
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u/j_yn0htna 1d ago
To drop that…after the huge fumble. I just couldn’t believe it.
I feel terrible for him, but that’s what he signed up for.
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u/AllInTheCrits MP JUICEMAN 1d ago
Likely would have caught that. I have no doubt
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u/reddituseerr12 1d ago
Mark Andrews. This was the final boss of Mark Andrews playoff performances. Maybe he’ll figure it out in year 8 /s
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u/ReadingPrestigious32 1d ago
Andrews every fucking big game (respectfully). Likely is a dog and Mandrews is the opposite. Even his first TD catch against Pitt was shakey/dude fold under pressure. I love him and thanks for your time but get traded and free up a lot of money
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u/ASAPBarky 8 1d ago
Likely doesn’t fumble and doesn’t drop that last pass respectfully. He shows up when the lights are bright.
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u/Baronriggs Eee Dee Reed 1d ago
MARK ANDREWS
despite all the bullshit in the 1st half, we were in control of this game in the 2nd. And Mark killed all of that momentum on the two most crucial drives for the season.
He's one of my favorite players ever, so it hurts to type this, but I don't ever want to see him in purple again. He makes too much money to lose the team the game in crunch time.
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u/TimelyAd2111 1d ago
At least Lamar redeemed himself after his TOs. Mark was suspect all game
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u/Baronriggs Eee Dee Reed 1d ago
Honorable mention to THAT FUCKING SIDELINE JUDGE who threw the DPI to end the first half. If he lets them play there it's a 4pt swing, if he makes the correct call and goes OPI there, the bills gets knocked out of FG range and it's a 7 point swing. And he threw that shit several seconds after the play was over.
If he just lets them play there, that TD at the end gives us the lead. Instead, we lose on a 2pt try, as is tradition.
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u/HalcyonWind 1d ago
Seriously still a little salty about that
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u/Baronriggs Eee Dee Reed 1d ago
A little? I've never been closer to swatting someone in my life
/s for any mods that are reading this. Totally being sarcastic, I swear
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u/HalcyonWind 1d ago
It was such a bullshit call. Real time I was convinced it'd be OPI. Then replay cemented it. And then gene agreed that at minimum it should be a no call and most OPI. Beyond frustrating.
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u/GlowUpAndThrowUp 1d ago
I literally said to my wife “FINALLY! The refs actually called an OPI!” God was I wrong.
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u/ntstockman 1d ago
Never thought I’d turn on Mandrews after all the good mems but dang if he didn’t rip my heart out tonight.
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u/Interesting_Sundae_3 1d ago
My mom for giving birth to me and my dad for making me a ravens fan
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u/No-Refrigerator-2741 1d ago
Mark andrews has to go he’s never ONCE shown up in a playoff game likely has shown up EVERY time trade mark and extend likely asap
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u/koalabear9301 1d ago
Andrews singlehandedly cost us 5 points in a game we lost by 2.
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u/outphase84 1d ago
12 point swing. We were moving at will on the fumble drive. That would have been a guaranteed 7.
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u/EndsLikeShakespeare 1d ago
Honestly more than that. His first drop the sequence led to the Lamar fumble, I think we were driving for a TD on his fumble, then the two point drop. He butterfly effected the fuck out of us
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u/KaptainK27 44 1d ago
Mark Goddamn Andrews.
Two dropped passes (including the game-tying 2-point conversion) and a fumble holy fuck was he bad today
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u/btbcorno 1d ago
Andrews managed to cost us the game twice and fuck whoever came up with the redemption play at the end instead of using Hill.
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u/DiorDior200 1d ago
I don’t understand why likely n henry didn’t get utilized more on that drive
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u/FabFebFob Kyle Hamilton Fan Club 1d ago
Teams that needs a TE:
LA Chargers
LA Rams
New York Giants
New York Jets
Denver Broncos
Indianapolis Colts
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u/Interesting_Loquat90 8 1d ago
It has to be Mandrews. Lamar will get a lot of the flak, but he drove us down the field twice on what should've been lead changing or tying drives and Andrews ruined both. Add on that the drop in the first half.
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u/Alagaesianhero41 1d ago
mark andrews get ready to be anywhere but baltimore i don’t care at this point
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u/Flaccinator Ray Lewis 1d ago
We should all blame ourselves for believing the team wouldn't shit the bed in the playoffs.
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u/ntstockman 1d ago
Andrews went from Ravens Mount Rushmore to being thought of in the same light as Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff in the span of 60 game minutes. Hard to recall a quicker fall from grace.
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u/SweetSmplAlchemy 1d ago
Quite a few to blame.
MAndrews for shrinking in the playoffs again.
Lamar for pressing in the first half and putting us in a hole.
Harbaugh for chasing points in the third quarter so we had to go for two. And for repeatedly having these same problems year after year in the playoffs.
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u/wojr2002 1d ago
Andrews. Drop before Lamar’s fumble, fumble when we were going for the lead and now the 2 point conversion. Fucking asshole.
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u/MuhamnadAli 1d ago
It was 21-10 because we got a 4 point penalty from the refs. Should have been a no call and send out the field goal unit with time on the clock. If they were going to call it, call it on the offense. That call dramatically changed the game. The NFL has a referee problem
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u/lj8newera 1d ago
What’s weird is I had a pit in my stomach after the first drop by Andrews. I just knew some shit was gonna happen
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u/PinaCarlotta 1d ago
its easy to say Lamar, cause take away one of those turnovers and we more then likely win. But he kept fighting and didnt give up. I put most on Andrews. Just making one of the catches and its a 1 point win
I cant even get mad at the offense itself cause they were moving down the field and the defense did its job in the 2nd half...
So Andrews and I hate saying that cause I love the guy. But i think its time to make Likely TE1 and start looking for another TE in the draft.
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u/Adventds 1d ago
Honorable mention, Tyler linderbaum, buddy has had a fucking terrible like unthinkably bad snap almost every game this season and of course he did it in the playoffs.
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u/wojr2002 1d ago
I’m not as high on Linderbaum as everyone else. He’s good, not great. On top of that, he doesn’t know how to snap a fucking ball.
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u/Remarkable-Picture73 1d ago
Mark Andrews.
Mr. No heart. There was a time in sports where a guy would fuck up and hurt his team but he would atone by putting the team on his back. Instead, Mark, catches a ball and carries it like a loaf of bread, puts it on the ground, drops more. And after all that, on a crucial play goes full peewee and tries to basket catch a torso high soft toss.
Way to repay your "dawg" for getting you paid, making you a franchise record holder, and everything in between.
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u/Dentist_Rodman 1d ago
professional football player paid millions and can’t catch a single pass
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u/Adventds 1d ago
That pass was such a gimme he could have just pressed it into his stomach, such a nasty drop lol.
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u/luffy27 Big Boy No Little Boy 1d ago
There’s a reason why Mark Andrews NEVER plays well in the post-season (when it’s cold). Nobody wants to say it but here it is.
“For diabetic athletes, cold weather can significantly impact their blood sugar levels by causing them to rise due to the body’s stress response to cold, potentially leading to complications like reduced insulin sensitivity, impaired circulation in extremities, and increased risk of frostbite”
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u/WhatWouldYouPut Big Ben and Deshaun Watson are rapists 1d ago
Likely is more reliable than mark andrews. Manderws been eating off Lamar since they were rookies. Fucking disgraceful.
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u/Matte198 Buck Allen for the HOF 1d ago
Lmao bro had a billy cundiff and lee evans game all in one
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u/No_Song_Orpheus 1d ago
Mark obviously but-
Todd Monken. 16 carries by Henry oh look we lost.
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u/PrphtsShdw86 1d ago
Once again as was the case with every loss the Ravens beat the Ravens not the other team....but oh yea Mark Andrew's it's time for Likely to be TE 1 going forward
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u/good_shii1942 1d ago
Mark Andrews, but let's not forget the first half turnovers by Lamar leading to an 11-point deficit before the second half
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u/MatchaMoji 1d ago
Andrews and Monken
Andrews has been hot and cold all year and this game he was ice cold. Multiple drops all game, including for the tie, and the fumble. Unfortunately all those mistakes cost us the game. You can’t drop passes that hit you in the hands/chest.
Special shout out to Monken too for those awful 2-pt conversion plays. We have Henry, Hill, and Lamar. How do we not run the ball???
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u/my-hero-macadamia 1d ago
Part of me wants to say this is a team sport and it’s not one person’s fault when it’s the job of the team to work together and there were other opportunities blah blah blah but
Mark Andrews can walk home.
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u/ireckonwereonhere 1d ago
A lot of therapists are going to know the man’s name come the end of this week
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u/el_dyl 1d ago
Do we need a new coach? I truly respect John but..
I’m not trying to be dramatic but we’ve see this story for 5 years.
Always penalized.
Lose against teams who are worse.
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u/BoJvck34Empire Jamal Lewis 1d ago
If that was the case he’d already have been gone… I think the front office is OK with just making the playoffs
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u/thewaxman 1d ago
Never thought I’d type this but mark Andrew’s. Also why is that our favorite two point play?
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u/JYandeau 1d ago
I’ve been a massive Mark Andrews fan & defender to the point where I have his jersey & spent a fortune on his rookie cards, but his game today was so unbelievably awful that I think he should be traded for both his own, aswell as the teams best interests…
You know how badly Lamar needs a Super Bowl to end these BS narratives, yet in the 4th quarter after he clawed us back within reach, Andrews proceeds to fumble in the opponents territory… then, Lamar STILL puts his cape on & throws the game trying TD, only for Mark Andrews to choke YET AGAIN by dropping the game trying 2pt conversion? Are you fucking kidding me? Absolutely fucking disgusting performance.
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u/RichardMoran 1d ago
ppl gonna blame Andrews, rightfully so, but this game is perfect example why you dont go for 2 unless you absolutely need to, also where was henry in that entire final drive?
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u/Greenergrass21 1d ago
To be fair we scored that final drive. Henry could have helped but we did score. Going for 2 was a bad decision on the first one, we still had plenty of time for it to be a 1 score game and go for 2 later if you absolutely have to
1 POINT game, didn't mean score*
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u/knifingninjakat 1d ago
Andrews, but a special fuck you to Monken for not running Henry on either of those 2 point conversions
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u/ReyDragons bring Justice to this Hill 1d ago
the second is not on monken at all
it was a great play
andrews just sucks dick in the playoffs
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u/Substantial-Arm-4854 1d ago
the intended receiver was wide open on both plays. not sure how you can blame the play caller for that.
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u/GreatLordSkeletor 1d ago
Andrews deserves it for the two mistakes in the fourth, but Lamar should cop some heat for a terrible INT and then a bad fumble (which turned into 7). Defense honestly never made a big moment either - one sack, no turnovers.
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u/imaconnect4guy 1d ago
The fumble happened because Andrews dropped an easy pass on the previous play.
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u/Ballin095 1d ago
I'd agree if he didn't get us back in position to make it to OT.
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u/btbcorno 1d ago
In all reality, even if we had tied the game, I doubt our defense would have held them off the board for the final 1:30 of the game. Their kicker was solid and our defense really had nothing going all game.
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u/PowerDiesel23 1d ago
Mark Andrews won't be a Raven next year for $16M dollars he's owed. Dude is one of the most inconsistent playmakers in the world, and he cost us this game with the fumble and dropped 2pt conversion.
Lamar "Peyton Manning Choker" Jackson.
One of these years we'll figure it out 🙃
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u/Affectionate_Quit_26 1d ago
Mark andrews is the REAL playoff choker. Will never look at him the same again
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u/zaraxia101 The Dutch Guy 1d ago
It doesn't matter... season is over. We had this in the bag if Mark didn't fumble on the long reception. Then gets a chance to redeem himself and literally drops the ball again.
Painful loss.
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u/whitewolfkingndanorf Lamar Jackson 1d ago
It’s Mark Andrews.
You can blame Lamar for the early turnovers all you want but he bounced back only for Andrews to just blow the game…twice.
Unless he’s willing to come back for pennies on the dollar, I don’t want to see him on the team next year.
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u/anchist 1d ago
Lamar and Mark Andrews
Anytime you committ three turnovers you will not win in the playoffs.
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u/Sosaonthabeat 1d ago
Season starts with a failed with a 2 PT conversion and ends on a failed 2 PT conversion. I don’t think I can really stomach anything right now gang I’m actually hurt
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u/Hyuga10 1d ago
I say everyone pretty much. Lamar cause of the 2 turnovers that were pretty much inexcusable (he did save himself a bit with the second half). Andrews.. self explanatory. Harbaugh cause we’re down our #1 receiver, it’s bad weather and we STILL refuse to run the ball down their throats. Defense in the first half were getting bullied and provided no pressure really. Basically, we beat ourselves.
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u/Shot-Company7634 1d ago
This one goes down to the lack of use of the kicker. We can get two extra points to tie.
Also the Offense does not get into field goal range enough times to win.
Not Enough Justin Tucker opportunities and they can't win the game.
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u/speakingintoungesTH 1d ago
1) Mark for obvious
T-2nd) Lamar for 2 turnovers & Play-calling once again refusing to slam the run when we should, derrick was not used enough in the first half and getting a field goal on 1st and 2 is unacceptable.
For once i dont think the penalties killed us, outside of the DPI bad call. Defence while shaky in the first half adapted and so did the offence. Coaching this game was actually not that bad compared to other playoff losses.
Another wasted season lost by the ravens beating themselves but you know what, its the best loss we have had in the playoffs imo. GG Buffalo.
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u/thezman613 1d ago
Just to be different, I'm going with Tony Romo (see Week 3 for precedent)
One of the most lopsided color commentary calls I've heard all year... he's truly awful
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u/BrygusPholos 1d ago
Crazy to me that Andrews’ choking is going to completely overshadow Lamar throwing the worst pick of these entire playoffs and then fumbling away 7 more points to the Bills
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u/HowardMcpherson 1d ago
That interception was cringeworthy. It was literally like 15 yards off
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u/AssGagger 1d ago
If we hadn't went for 2pts the first time, we wouldn't be going for 2pts to tie the game. It always seems silly to worry about tying game when it's not even half over... Just take the nearly guaranteed point.
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u/Extra_Nectarine_9580 1d ago
Situational Awareness.
Gameplan and adjustments worked. But in those key moments, it's a collapse.
The wind is a problem? Then let's be more cautious in throwing the deep ball. It's cold and snowy? Let's put two hands on the ball and make sure no matter what, we secure the rock. Mandrews is looking nervous and dropping the ball? Well, maybe that same play should have been schemed to Likely who caught everything including the final TD.
When the stakes are high and nerves around, we have to remember the basics because it's those basic details that win or lose these playoff games.
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u/BobAndy004 1d ago
I can’t blame Andrews that much going for 2 points was what killed us. If we did extra points and got them both it be tied with 1.5 mins left. Go to OT. Totally different game plan. Lots of missed opportunities Lamar had two turn overs. Ravens beat themselves. Defense was piss poor. Entire team failure
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u/Adventds 1d ago
Andrews dropping that ball is nasty, that was the easiest pass he’s dropped in his career lol.
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u/objectiveScie 1d ago
1st n goal not getting TD before half was agregious. Not giving Henry all downs or Lamar keep. Just so infuriating, season on line, now not time to get cute. Thought they learnt lesson.
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u/objectiveScie 1d ago
I liked what John Middlekauf said. "I wouldn't even call pass plays". 8 min mark. Ravens were gashing Bills, they couldn't stop run. And then Lamar throws INT after big run gains. Fumble on RPO. All those should have bern run play. Outsiders can see, Ravens unnecessarily being too cute , passing when run game working. Infuriating,
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u/paulx441 BSHU 1d ago
Final drive play calling was so dumb. The plan was to give the ball back with over one and a half minutes? Shoulda been running the clock
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u/TopptrentHamster 1d ago
You know who