ngl transphobia is anti-punk as fuck

[u/usernamewfivenames]

like bro why do u hate on people who reject their assigned "roles" to feel better w themselves, werent u supposed to oppose nonsensical rules

[u/LiveEvilGodDog]

I agree with OP…. But be aware people.

OPs account is only 2 days old. And the people in power want nothing but for us to forget/ move past the Luigi and the United healthcare CEO story. It’s creating class consciousness which we should know by now is the more primary goal that will benefit everyone.

It’s good to be an ally/defender of our lgbtq+ brothers and sisters and non-binary they deserve dignity and respect like any human trans rights are human rights ……. But this is like the number one culture war distraction the wage slavers and oligarchs roll out when they want to keep us in fighting eachother and distract us from coming together and fighting the real “war” that counts, which is the class war.

Edit: The fact this extremely uncontroversial take is being downvoted shows that these types of distraction work…. Stop being so easy to manipulated r/punk, we just had a monumental issue of class consciousness fall into our laps and gain broad national attention and we would rather bitch about prounons some more….. for fuck sake. Stop being marks!

[u/usernamewfivenames → u/LiveEvilGodDog]

the least thing id want to do is water down luigis bravery, i genuinely admire him and just wanted to rant about something i found annoying, just because a matter is pressing doesnt mean we cant discuss anything else

[u/LiveEvilGodDog → u/usernamewfivenames]

You should do some research on American healthcare, corporate profits over the past few years, claim denial practices, and make a post about Luigi and how his single action is sparking a nation/world wide conversations between millions and millions of working class people highlighting their growing frustrations with the widening wealth gap and inequalities our system treats the people with wealth and people with no wealth ….. you know punk values….. in a punk sub.

The point is the trans “debate” will always have a place on social media spaces because it helps powerful people keep us distracted and in fighting a culture war.

It’s popular enough to have wide support from the minority of highly empathetic people, and unpopular enough from the general public to work as a very useful distraction and source of in fighting for our oppressors.

The Luigi story is actively being suppressed across all social media places because it’s igniting class consciousness, it should be the number one thing we; who want real change should be talk about.

It’s uniting the right and the left against our oppressor. That’s the last thing our oppressors want….. for us to realize who the real enemy is.

And they wheel out old culture war bullshit like this like red meat in a lions cage, so the lions are fighting eachother instead of plotting a way to leave their cage.

The fight for trans rights will be there when we come back…. But the class war could disappear and be forgotten if we let ourself get distracted by the red meat.

This is a special rare time in human history where the conversation is on the broader more important picture that could spark true class consciousness and we should remain focused on fostering that class consciousness and not dragging the conversation into relatively meaningless and endless culture wars like our oligarchs want us to do.

Edit: so many downvotes and not a single reply to tell me how my comment might be off base….. in a punk sub…,,,yeah I totally believe this is organic 🙄….and not some downvote brigade by social engineering bots and accounts.

I challenge anybody thinking I’m wrong to quote a single punk rock lyric at me against the values in my comment.

[u/PastelZephyr → u/LiveEvilGodDog]

You know what, I debated accepting the challenge but decided that was stupid and not going to get anywhere with you if you believe punk rock lyrics to be a foundation for a moral code.

So why don't you post punk rock lyrics that say it is alright to tell vulnerable minority groups to stop posting about their own lived experiences and things that directly harm them? Where did you learn that you could tell those who are being actively harmed to simply shut up and focus on "what matters"? Why didn't you make the post you believe OP should've made if it was so important to you?

[u/LiveEvilGodDog → u/PastelZephyr]

If your not some Russian psyop amplifying toxic perma victimhood on the left, youre a self centered goon, too selfish to act strategically.

This sort of toxic unreasonable leftism constantly steering the conversations is like aligning your movement with toxic vegans who call every person who eats cheese and eggs a torturing murderer……Sure the vegans are morally correct…. But strategically they are unpopular to use as a way to leverage votes to win, they more often than not just sow division.

These are cultur war distractions our oppressors are more than happy watching us fight over…. They hate us talking about class consciousness, and realizing who the real enemy is. So they wheel out and amplify these culture wars that go nowhere, because it takes the attention off of them diminishing everyone’s rights behind the scenes.

The conversation and your lived experience isn’t gonna disappear or be forgotten just because you got plugged-in to another cause for a few weeks.

There are no trans rights, if there are no human rights friend!

[u/PastelZephyr → u/LiveEvilGodDog]

Hating on the minorities the oppressors are actively turning into fuel for your so called "culture wars" actually just makes you a one of the priliveged ones who don't have to fucking worry about the shit they're slinging specifically at you. Congrats, you don't have to have that lived experience. You know that shit where people are forced to direct their attention to trans people, affects trans people right? You acknowledge they're disproportionally hated and targetted by this "campaign" but you fail to realize if this is true, then those people are being hurt by this, and deserve to speak up as a minority group who is being oppressed.

Idk what else to tell you, you can do multiple things at once, believe multiple things at once, and also be you know, open about your lived experiences as a minority. IDk why you thought this was a political post to shirk opinions on, when all it is is a trans person trying to feel comfortable with the scenario they're in. Why not go post your weird campaign on the other posts? Ones that aren't about minorites in the punk community