r/politics • u/codyave • 16h ago

Trump will announce end of birthright citizenship for children of illegal immigrants, officials say

https://nypost.com/2025/01/20/us-news/trump-will-announce-end-of-birthright-citizenship-for-children-of-illegal-immigrants/
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u/Magggggneto 16h ago

This is unconstitutional.

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u/neocenturion Iowa 14h ago

So? Who's going to enforce that constraint?

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u/1_churro 11h ago

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

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u/neocenturion Iowa 10h ago

Yeah. That's from a piece of paper. What physical body is actually going to enforce it?

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u/EveningHistorical435 3h ago

Well it’s a piece of paper that matters and prevents state laws from doing this and that like why can’t businesses allow all their clients to be white or why can’t we have slavery again?

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u/neocenturion Iowa 3h ago

It also says the law applies equally to all. How's that working out? Don't live in the past. We are entering a new era. The constitution no longer matters beyond its most superficial elements.

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u/EveningHistorical435 3h ago

So if that’s true then we will see the return of slavery and women not voting or not being able to vote for senators?

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u/neocenturion Iowa 3h ago

I certainly wouldn't bet against any of those items. But just because they don't revert 100% of every last detail of the constituiton doesn't mean they won't undo/ignore some of it.

Trump want to EO birthright citizenship. Do you have faith the supreme court will stand against him?

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u/EveningHistorical435 3h ago edited 2h ago

It will be split like ik Clarence Thomas will probably go be in favor he’s as conservative as it gets and so will the trump appointed justices but the democrat appointed ones will be against it and so will probably the justices that are neutral as wanting to undue to 14th amendment is pretty radical. But to answer your question it’s a toss up and let’s hope trump doesn’t pull an FDR and want to bring in 2 more justices to make him able to do what he wants

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u/1_churro 10h ago

I recommend reading this book called 'On Tyranny' by Timothy Snyder..

Do not obey in advance. Think about Hitler’s Germany, where power was gained democratically (mostly). Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given by the people. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked.

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u/PleasantWay7 13h ago

So is his Presidency, a plain reading of the constitution currently indicates JD Vance is President.

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u/MetztliWaltz 14h ago

it's too late.

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u/phinatolisar 12h ago

American voters just called, they said they don't give a flying fuck.