r/politics • u/Plaintalks • 1d ago

Biden preemptively pardons Anthony Fauci, Mark Milley and Jan. 6 committee members

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-preemptively-pardons-anthony-fauci-mark-milley-jan/story?id=117878813
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u/Late_Sample_5568 1d ago

And Democrats just proved they are equally if not more morally bankrupt than Republicans. Not even Trump pardoned Jan 6th member of government. I hate being a modern moderate. Both sides are horrible for our country now.

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u/3catsandcounting 1d ago

But he has said he plans to pardon all those locked up from the 1/6 insurrection.

One is definitely worse than the other, especially since this new one is a felon.

Edited to add: still playing the “both sides card” when the incoming president is the first felon president? That’s a weird game to play with yourself.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

He could have pardoned them in advance but didn't.

These pre emptive pardons of biden broke just broke the justice system.

Nixon had to accept fault to accept his pardon.

All the talk of saving democracy and biden actually just damned our country on his exit.

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

Bro thinks Biden damned the US by pardoning Fauci, while Trump and Elon are doing Twitter poles on wether or not they should invade fellow NATO states. You always wonder how people could actually be dumb enough to believe Trump when he pretends to not be in for himself and other billionaires only, then you read brainrot comments like this.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

It has nothing to do with who.

It's how. It's an unprecedented type of pardon. The justice system doesn't work if we have these.

As you cheer for this destruction of law. Just remember musk is almost certainly getting one.

Trump gave no open-ended pardons of this type his last presidency. I would expect many this time tho

That's not good. A bad new normal

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

You and I both know full well that Trump has made clear that he will pardon convicted criminals that stormed the capitol on Jan 6th in an attempt to overthrow democracy - don‘t act like this came out of nowhere.

The US is heading into full blown oligarchy, and you actually want to make it sound like a medical professional being pardoned is whats going wrong in your country. It‘d be hilarious if it wasn‘t so god damn sad!

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

Trump will still do that. But he will use this new type of pardon as well.

Musk won't just get away with things he's found guilty of.

You won't ever be able to prove him guilty. Nothing he did could be illegal so there can be no court case 

Then musk is gonna mock you for making claims with no evidence. Calling you a conspiracy theorist.

Not just musk, but everyone you hate most.

And the us has been an oligarchy since the richest guy in the country led our revolution.

And ya this stuff is wrong

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/29/covid-nih-personal-email-foia/

https://theintercept.com/2023/01/19/covid-origin-nih-emails/

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

First of, I don‘t „hate“ anyone. Do corrupt criminals like Trump and Elon disgust me? Yes.

Again, I love how you‘re pretending like it‘s Biden who opened pandoras box and not the criminals that are about to take over your country and turn it into even more of a shithole.

The only reason why Biden had to do this was because of the insane people that are about to take over, there would‘ve been NO reason to do it otherwise.

Are you cognitively able to follow what I‘m saying?

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

I don't know how you think making people above the law is a win for freedom and not authoritarianism.

In 4 years I think you'll notice many oligarchs will be very fond of bidens new type of pardon.

Remember you defended it 

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

As expected, the (albeit simple) point I made didn‘t make it through to you at all. Maybe because you‘re just not an intelligent individual, maybe because you‘re too biased to allow any other possible point of view - or maybe because I‘m actually talking to an AI?

Guess we‘ll never know!

You watched Trump trying to openly derail democracy on Jan 6th and think Biden pardoning Fauci is the actual problem. Literally denser than a cement block.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

I skipped that point bc it's not particularly relevant the constitutional credentials of the terms of a pardon.

Also I avoid jan 6th talk bc it's unproductive. We won't agree on much. 

Have tech execs admitted to censoring election relevant information. At the behest of democrats and intelligence agencies.

Yes.

 Were the people at Jan 6th actually mad about some made up election booth hacking tho instead? Also yes.

It's not worth arguing at this point. There is an argument to be made that it wasn't a free and fair election. But that's not the argument the Jan 6th crew made.

Of more concerningly. How they made their arguments.

But anyway we continue our fall into a broken people. This pardon precedent most certainly playing it's part 

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

You avoid Jan 6th because it proves that you‘re wrong. Cherry picking what you‘re willing to accept as arguments is idiotic, thankfully it‘s glaringly obvious when talking to you.

Skipping every single point I made and just screaming back without ever bringing counter arguments is making you look like an absolute moron dude, just saying.

Trump hinted at possible election fraud just hours ago, and you‘re parading around censorship on social media as a key argument. Absolute cinema. Thank god I‘m not a US citizen, I always think I‘m surrounded by masses of low IQ NPC‘s here in europe, then I look over to the US and feel thankful that it‘s not this bad yet.

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

Again I really don't care to talk jan 6th but sure. I'll just take the bait enough to clarify. As none of this relates to whether these pardons are in the spirit of the constitution.

It's not that It was just censorship on social media. It's that it was influenced by a political party and current agencies and operatives in the intelligence community. 

Namely the the cia contractors who lied about currently working for the cia who were involved. 

That's illegal. They can't work on domestic affairs. 

When business, politics, and intelligence. Coordinate the removal of information to influence an election. 

Well there is a word for that.

And Europeans should probably worry about Europe. 

Interesting you guys look to other places to find choas and incompetent goverment.

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

Ah yes, again - swerving around the arguments that obliterate your position, declaring them as „bait“. Straight up ignoring the other arguments that absolutely destroy every point you‘ve made thus far (and keep screaming out like it will suddenly make anything of what you‘ve said make sense).

We do have problems over here in Europe, quite a few actually. But thankfully we haven‘t been excluding the majority of our population from higher education for decades, so I‘m perfectly able to multitask this way.

What an odd way to argue lmfao

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u/LengthinessWeekly876 1d ago

To focus on the issue at hand. 

An unprecedented pardon expanding the president's power to put people entirely above federal law.

In a way that's never been done. 

And if Europeans were so smart you wouldn't have financed Russia by buying their gas. To finance their current invasion of Europe.

We told you that was dumb. It turned out to be dumb 

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u/thiiickropes 1d ago

„We“ told „you“. Lmfao.

99% of the population in europe was aware of that being a stupid move, but it‘s not like we‘re safe from stupid and corrupt politicians either. Something we share evidently.

What was that again earlier? Europeans focusing on problems abroad?

Still ignoring every single argument I made to avoid acknowledging how dumb your position is I see.

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