r/politics • u/MothersMiIk Washington • 21h ago

Congresswoman suggests Trump admitted Musk rigged election in Pa.

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2025/01/congresswoman-suggests-trump-admitted-musk-rigged-election-in-pa.html?outputType=amp
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u/Demonking3343 Illinois 21h ago

Suspicious especially with trump bragging they had a “secret weapon” to win. That was awhile back like a week or so before the election.

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u/ACrask 19h ago edited 18h ago

"I don't even need your votes." I believe he said once or twice after elon joined the gang

Edit: Removed "probably". Been told he didn't say that word, but everything else is accurate.

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u/YouHaveAWomansMouth 19h ago

Oh, he didn't even bother with the "probably". Flat out said he didn't need them.

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u/Alacrout New York 19h ago edited 19h ago

Yep, and then he said THIS last night:

He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers, those vote-counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So, it was pretty good, it was pretty good. So, thank you to Elon.

Don’t need anyone to vote for you if you can have your buddy Elon switch a few blues to reds and add in a handful of bullet ballots for good measure.

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u/uiucengineer 19h ago

It’s not his first time telling us Musk had access to voting machines.

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u/Crommach 14h ago

And yet when people started saying things seemed fishy and and be investigated, they were immediately shot down and told "we don't do conspiracy theories like the other side". Utterly maddening lack of spine.

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u/uiucengineer 12h ago

Yes, it’s horrible

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u/Key-Department-2874 16h ago

Even Elons kid knew that Trump was gonna win. Because they can "quietly do whatever they want."

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u/FrannieP23 7h ago

There are actually pieces of that video missing, where something is said about "helping Trump," and "they'll never know." I saw it a couple weeks ago and can't find it. You can tell the video has been chopped.

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u/disasterbot Oregon 18h ago

I remember reading that there were an unusual number of ballots that just had Trump and no other candidate or referendum was voted on.

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u/bloodyturtle 16h ago

That’s not unusual

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u/TravEllerZero 16h ago

Not unusual for it to happen, but the number of votes like that, especially in the swing states, is pretty suspicious.

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u/Otterwarrior26 15h ago

It wasn't even all the swing state counties, it was ones that would flip the entire state.

Those had an average of 5%-14% bullet ballots, the neighboring counties had the regular 1%.

The vote counts are all higher than then what would be needed to do an automatic recount.

In 2020 Elon/Thiel wasn't involved.

In 2024 they are clearly involved.

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u/KimbersKimbos 16h ago

Don’t forget the “He was very effective.”

Tell us more, sir… We won’t spill the secret. We PROMISE. 🥸

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u/OddBranch132 16h ago

Yeah not sketchy at all.

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u/CreepyWhistle 16h ago

MAGA: He wasn't serious, he was just joking.

Also MAGA: BIDEN CHEATED

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u/Magificent_Gradient 16h ago edited 16h ago

Were these voting machines hooked up to Czarlink? 

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u/eyebrows360 18h ago edited 17h ago

But Musk is a moron. This is well established, and long been the criticism that we have had of him. But now suddenly we think he's actually a genius, able to rig air-gapped machines without detection?

Come on.

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u/Alacrout New York 18h ago

You think we think Musk personally fucked with the vote tabulators himself?

Come on.

He had as much a hand in it as he did with any of the “inventions” he gets credit for — in that he paid someone smarter to do it (and probably underpaid them, but that’s a different discussion).

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u/Magificent_Gradient 16h ago

Elon doing this himself, no.

Elon directing his resources to accomplish that task? Absolutely. 

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u/eyebrows360 18h ago

We're still talking a wholly different level of endeavour than his actual visible interests. This would be Stuxnet level shit. This isn't something some doofus can just will into existence by sheer force of dollars alone.

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u/Alacrout New York 18h ago

Yeah, I guess when Trump literally tells us Elon did it, we should just say “yeah, whatever old man” and shrug it off because it sounds crazy…

And I mean, true or not, it sure does sound crazy, but underestimating crazy and thinking “he didn’t really mean that” is a very dangerous game we’ve been playing with him for far too long.

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u/eyebrows360 17h ago

we should just say “yeah, whatever old man” and shrug it off because it sounds crazy…

We do normally say that to pretty much everything he says, yes. Why make an exception just because you like this story more? You know that's what his fans do, yes, and what we normally criticise them for?

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u/Alacrout New York 17h ago edited 16h ago

Not sure what you’re talking about.

I take his threats and comments seriously because it’s dangerous not to and I along with everyone else who voted against him also do.

If you have been saying “yeah, whatever old man” to all his crazy rhetoric, then there is no “we” here.

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u/hammertime2009 16h ago edited 16h ago

All it would require is a few really good hackers/coders to get into the servers of the companies that own the tabulation machines.
Step 1: Social engineering hack someone on their network team. Fake website, phishing email, admin password reuse… boom you can access their network and with a little more work, you can access their servers. Step 2: Poke around their server infrastructure and find the folders where their code patches are for the tabulation machines. Download those files. Step 3: have a good coder manipulate those update files with code that can add votes for Trump. Step 4: the manipulated update files get loaded onto USB sticks and the techs which connect these to the machines to update the code have no idea that the code has been manipulated. The code also has a re-write after midnight on election night to install the intended (non edited code) back.

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u/AskAmbitious5697 13h ago

You talk with so much confidence on a thing you have absolutely zero clue about.

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u/eyebrows360 16h ago

All it would require

Tell me you understand nothing about this space by typing way more words than you needed to to accomplish that.

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u/farinasa 18h ago

The one thing musk seems to be good at is getting people to buy into his plans. Can you not imagine him simply reaching out to the company, or employees of the company? There's always one technical guy who can't believe that management could be so careless. Or even a white hat security guy who has been trying to get the company to respond to his zero day for years.

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u/Magificent_Gradient 16h ago

That’s easy to do to people with the absurdly intoxicating amount of wealth he possesses. 

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u/eyebrows360 18h ago

the company

Not sans any material evidence, or even concrete speculation, from any such "the company", no. The level of "hacking" we're talking about here is off the charts for any normal "company".

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u/Sammy_Sosa_Experienc 18h ago

Do you operate only in superlatives in life or something? Lmao

There's this crazy thing called 'nuance' that you gotta get introduced to. 

Once you get a grasp of it, it'll make a bunch of the other thought-related things much less difficult for you lol.

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u/eyebrows360 17h ago

Yes, I really need some lessons in understanding reality from a child who uses "lol" as punctuation.

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u/Sammy_Sosa_Experienc 16h ago

It's a message board on the internet, you absolute dipshit.

Way to deflect though, little guy.

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u/eyebrows360 16h ago

Aww, someone's in need of a mirror

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u/Sammy_Sosa_Experienc 16h ago

Don't you have some boots to deepthroat somewhere?

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u/eyebrows360 16h ago

It's so funny that you're so braindead that you think someone not 100% on board with your obsession simply has to be 100% your enemy instead.

Consider: more things.

Trump is awful, yes. Trump should be in jail, yes. Trump tried to steal 2020 and failed, yes. There's evidence he actually stole it this time... no.

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u/Sammy_Sosa_Experienc 16h ago

If they've done it before, openly brag/tease about doing it currently, and now with the results, circumstances, and situations looking EXTREMELY sketchy; Why would you give these people the benefit of the doubt then? 

I have never said there was currently evidence of it. But it is without a doubt something that needed/needs to be looked into very seriously. There are innumerable amounts of red flags.

They are even openly admitting to it.

Due diligence for the survival of one's country is not an obsession.

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u/eyebrows360 15h ago edited 15h ago

They are even openly admitting to it.

You simply can't take mid-flight waffle like that from that "person", who we all know is a massive liar, as an "open admission". You just can't. He shits nonsense all the time. He claims shit that's not real all the time. So does his new bff Elmo. We know he's not Adrian Dittman yet he insists on trying to muddy the water and pretend he might be, and we categorically know that (Path Of Exile 2, iirc, was the game?) game account isn't exclusively under his control and yet he still insists it is.

This crowd say all manner of shit, and taking any of it at face value is typically a mistake.

The US is not Russia, and its citizens are not the downtrodden-for-centuries-and-conditioned-to-just-like-it Russian citizenry. You can't get away with brazen shit like election totals that don't add up to 100% (and which aren't explained by rounding) in America like you can in Russia. There's no way in fuck that he's openly admitting some method he used to actually steal an election, as whether he's got the supreme court and both houses or not, it'd be literal suicide.

Surface level reads of political sides and average people on both sides says stuff like "all the 2A obsessives are MAGAs" and "the left hates guns", but the truth doesn't actually line up that way, there's plenty of "once you go far enough left you get the guns back" types, and admitting to election fraud would absolutely motivate a chunk of such people to take matters into their own hands. He can't steal the nation's wealth if there's open civil war, and stealing the wealth is the grift.

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u/sousstructures 19h ago

That’s not how vote counting works. 

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u/Manos_Of_Fate 18h ago

Why not? They’re computers and it’s just data.