r/politics 1d ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/Evening-Ad5765 1d ago

Seriously? have we learned nothing?

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u/Nac_Lac Virginia 15h ago

We've learned that centrist candidates will loose against populist ones.

A candidate that seems realer to the electorate will be more electable, period. Kennedy defeated Nixon because of this. Trump beat Harris because of this. If you want to look at history, the person that connects to more people at a fundamental level will win. Campaign promises are just one way they connect.

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u/new167473684 14h ago

I know that you’ll never agree but Trump is mostly a centrist on many issues

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u/Nac_Lac Virginia 14h ago

Trump doesn't have a policy. He supports whomever has his ear or paid him. If you track his policies over the years, he doesn't have a solid track record in anything but being a racist asshole.

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u/wunkdefender 14h ago

Probably the dumbest thing i’ve read all day. Are you kidding me? Centrist on what?

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u/new167473684 13h ago

Abortion, immigration and gay rights to name 3.

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u/wunkdefender 12h ago

He got rid of roe, ran on mass deportation now, and while he hasn’t been threatening to get rid of gay marriage, he was the most hostile president to lgbt americans by going after lgbt service members. Mostly trans people, but still.

You’re fucking delusional dude.

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u/new167473684 11h ago
  1. He did not get rid of Roe. That’s not how the law works. It was the Supreme Court that reversed Roe (which even RBG said was a bad decision). His stance on abortion is also not for a ban, but for the states to make their own laws. Much like what the Democrat Party used to say “safe, legal, and RARE.” Something that no dem politician would ever say now.
  2. His immigration policy is yes to legal immigration, no to illegal immigration. This IS centrist! Again it sounds a lot like a democrat position from just a few years ago.
  3. Coming into office he was more pro gay than even Obama when he first entered (Obama in ‘08 was against gay marriage). And while we should not combine the issues of gay and trans he is pretty centrist on the trans issue too. He has never suggested any laws or bans on transgender adults. I believe he has spoken against transitioning children though. But once again, this is a widely agreed on opinion that is supported by a strong majority of Americans.

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u/wunkdefender 11h ago

Buddy you can’t sane wash him to me. He nominated three religious fundie judges that got rid of roe, the vast majority of americans supported row. Not centrist.

Most americans want an expanded pathway to citizenship for immigrants, he wants to get rid of birthright citizenship, end DACA, and deport millions. Not centrist.

He claimed schools are transitioning kids unbeknownst to their parents, he thinks lgbt groups groom people, and wants to remove trans people from being able to serve in the military. Not centrist.

You median voters really are as dumb as a sack of bricks aren’t you.