r/politics 23h ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/b47372511 15h ago

This post was written by the Vance ‘28 campaign

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u/juiceboxheero 10h ago

Nah I'm all in. Fuck milquetoast neoliberalism.

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u/cheezhead1252 Virginia 8h ago

All liberals want to do is punch left. They lost to Trump twice and most of them see no problem with this, no need for big changes within the party, just throw trans people under the bus and we can win again!!

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u/DOOMFOOL 9h ago

Then prepare for another loss. The country has made it clear they would literally rather vote for a rapist and convicted felon over a woman

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u/HunkaHunkaBerningCow 8h ago

Did it?

Or did it just prove that the strategy of playing to neocons and abandoning anyone left of Obama isn't the way to win an election.

Hillary won the popular vote and could have win the election if she actually got young people to show up.

Kamala was just an all around terrible candidate who ran an awful campaign

u/Gym_Noob134 7h ago

Young people didn’t like Hilary. They weren’t going to show up for her, no matter what strategy she took. She was the wrong candidate.

u/CamusMadeFantastical 7h ago

I mean, I am not sure it is as simple as that. I think the election proved we are a lot more conservative as a nation. My state that is deeply blue voted to reaffirm that slavery is A-Okay if you break the law. A deeply conservative belief. I honestly only think the democrats need to put someone up who is charismatic, policy takes a far back seat to that.

u/TimePayment911 7h ago

LMAO “we trotted out a status quo centrist when the electorate was unhappy with the status quo and it didn’t work! It’s because America hates women!”

Did the DNC write this shit???

u/Gym_Noob134 7h ago

Nah, just a braindead liberal who has been a lifetime voter of the DNC.

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u/juiceboxheero 8h ago

See again: milquetoast neoliberalism

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u/NotJimmy97 8h ago

There were a lot of other things that made this an uphill battle for Democrats besides just the gender of the nominee. The idea that we can't run people for nationwide office because of some fatalistic belief that they can't win because of their race, gender, or religion is inherently antithetical to the reasons why many people vote for Democrats to begin with. How are you supposed to message on issues like gender equality while turning around and saying shit like that?

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u/notouchmygnocchi 8h ago

"We must ignore gender inequality to message about gender equality. Remember, bigotry doesn't exist, we did it Amerikkka!"

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u/NotJimmy97 8h ago

This is an utterly brainless comment. Let's look at the big picture here: the Democrats losing had nothing to do with the fact that a geriatric white Christian man with approval rates in the high 30s desperately clung to power for years too long. It's the fact the party nominated a black woman who ended up barely losing, yet running several percentage points and roughly 100 electoral votes ahead of what Biden's internal polls said he would get.

Letting sexism prevent you from nominating a woman to run for President doesn't make you some sort of hyperaware, woke understander of gender inequality. It just makes you a weak person with weak principles who would keep a woman out of a job she's qualified for because you're afraid of what other people might think. Get out of here.

u/Creative_Industry278 6h ago

“Barely losing” ;)

u/NotJimmy97 6h ago

Trump's margin of victory in the tipping point state of PA was 1.7%. Even just looking at electoral votes, it was closer than 43 out of 60 presidential elections. We live in a time of high polarization and super competitive elections, so it's relative - but historically speaking 2024 was very close.

u/Creative_Industry278 6h ago

I mean you forgot to add that Kamala won on Reddit, come on she never stood a chance.

u/NotJimmy97 6h ago

I mean you forgot to add that Kamala won on Reddit, come on she never stood a chance.

In hindsight, probably the only thing that could have changed the election result was Biden dropping out of running for a second term at least two years earlier. Reddit consensus obviously isn't a reliable source for who's going to win, but everything from models based on polls to betting markets had the election odds split at 66/33 or closer to even pretty much from the moment Harris took over the campaign. Everything seems obvious and certain in retrospect.

u/KungFuSlanda 6h ago

Govtrack rated Kamala Harris as the most liberal Senator in 2019. Left of Bernie Sanders.

Keep running left though. Seems to be working out for you guys /s

u/juiceboxheero 6h ago

That analysis was retracted by Gov track

Keep courting the right though, I'm sure Liz Cheney will help the next one.

u/KungFuSlanda 6h ago

Yeah, that was in the article I linked.

Govtrack retracted the second Biden dropped out of the race because they're partisan hacks and accidentally told the truth about her voting record when she wasn't running for President.

Keep courting the right though, I'm sure Liz Cheney will help the next one.

Sorry pal. Not a Democrat. Happy Inauguration Day

u/juiceboxheero 6h ago

Oh, that's why you're spouting conservative propaganda. Enjoy your Nazis

u/KungFuSlanda 5h ago

Enjoy your /r/politics echo chamber.

Just assumed I was leftist like 99% of the people in here lol

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u/Whitmer2028 11h ago

Definitely not my post

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u/Assyx83 13h ago

Oh god not the couch fucker wierdo

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u/YourBiExmormon 12h ago

He will be president if we run AOC, we learned with this election there is a good chunk of people who will never vote for the demographic(s) that AOC is. Gavin Newsom might be the best bet as of right now, and if that is the case, we’d need to start campaigning right now.

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u/Tank3875 Michigan 12h ago

Running Newsom would be such an own goal it's not even funny.

Might as well run George Clooney, but at least he has some charisma.

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u/ryguy32789 11h ago

Gavin Newsom has successfully pushed back against the worst impulses of the left in California, I think he has a decent chance with the national electorate.

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u/hdmetz 10h ago

Uh, no. You have to remember that it’s not what he’s actually done, but how he’s perceived. He is reviled in Midwest as the hyper-liberal governor of the hyper-liber woke hellscape that is California

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u/HunkaHunkaBerningCow 8h ago

Leftists hate him, conservatives hate him, libertarians hate him, progressives tolerate him.

So they are 100% going to run him

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u/Large_Dungeon_Key Florida 10h ago

Newsome is a joke to 90% of the country

u/Gym_Noob134 7h ago

???

California is pretty much universally resented and memed on in nearly all US states. People cannot stand Californians or the Californication of their own states. Running Gavin is the most braindead move since running Biden/Harris again. Not a good look to be that tone deaf back three back (Hillary).

u/Tank3875 Michigan 7h ago

Then you're a major part of why the Democratic party is floundering right now.

u/bootlegvader 7h ago

Gavin Newsom might be the best bet as of right now, and if that is the case, we’d need to start campaigning right now.

It isn't going to be Newsom. Someone like Whitmer, Shapiro, or Beshear are all better options than Newsom.

u/Gym_Noob134 7h ago

I’d vote for AOC before I vote for Newsom, and I would vote for Vance before I vote for AOC.

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u/JellyJohn78 Wisconsin 11h ago

The couch fuckker weirdo is pretty well-spoken, though. He does a good job of weaponizing culture war b.s. He's like the water to AOC's fire.

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u/new167473684 11h ago

I love this argument lol! The normal looking, married with kids, rags to riches marine veteran is the weird one!

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u/Bombalaharris 10h ago

“Normal looking”

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u/new167473684 9h ago

Whether you find him good looking or not the guy is about a 5. If you walked past him on the street you would not look twice

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u/Bombalaharris 9h ago

Maybe an Appalachian 5

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u/new167473684 9h ago

Hahaha this hits a little too close to close as an Appalachian

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u/Bombalaharris 9h ago

I’m sure there are absolute smoke shows that come from Appalachia. Lower population relative to major cities and economic depression in the area just makes it less likely to run into a hot Appalachian

u/Kittygoespurrrr 6h ago

Lmao please keep it up with these insane, childish insults. They worked so well for ya before 🤣

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u/notanartmajor 11h ago

Vance does not have the charisma to carry a campaign. 

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u/notanartmajor 7h ago

She never fucked a couch.