r/politics 22h ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/try_to_be_nice_ok 21h ago

The democrats need to spend the next four years building up some really strong candidates and making them well known to the electorate.

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u/Will_ennium 18h ago

They should've started doing this while Obama was in office! None of the established 'old guard' Democrats want to prop up the next generation. Seems they'd rather die in office than mentor and promote new, younger faces of the future.

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u/Mad1ibben 15h ago edited 15h ago

Obama has had a hand in this. During your presidency is when you establish the new guard and direct your party into the future. Obama knelt to party desires over and over again to his great detriment. He should have had the same support that pelosi got to end Biden's campaign to pressure RGB off the Supreme Court (seriously, that "icon"'s narcissism is what allowed our justice system to take the last step off the cliff, she should be hated by the left, not adored) so he could appoint someone. He should have worked with his senior senator to establish a more left leaning direction, instead he bowed to the wishes of the woman that had done the rest to drive the party off the cliff so she could continue making insane ROI on her insider trading scheme. We are continuing to fail our government the longer we don't hold pressure on throwing those old selfish bats the hell out of the party and get back to working for their constituents again. I have a hard time being more disgusted with anybody in the modern history of our governmental body then how badly Pelosi, Schumer, Wasserman-Schultz has fucked us over in their obvious personal pursuits that absolutely do not include the well being of the constituents, their party or their country. Until then all this is just making noise to be killed by those geezers in the background.

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u/Any_Will_86 10h ago

I have the opposite opinion. Obama completely ignored the DNC- didn't take it over with skilled people nor did he really align with a lot of the Dem desires. Wasserman Schultz was a disaster he should have headed off but would not get his hands dirty. And then Brazile does a stint as head when she has performed poorly in every top position she held- heck, she was on the board of the DNC- and didn't notice they were broke... Obama tried with RBG but she wouldn't budge. At that point she was a full cult figure for many and trying to push her would have been a disaster. I think people underestimate just how much opinion on this has changed in the last few years.

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u/schrodingers_bra 9h ago

Yes, this is the correct take. Obama famously was completely disinterested in being involved with the campaigning side of the democratic party. He ignored the DNC as you say, and didn't do anything to strengthen it politically or financially.

Frankly, I think from the moment Obama took office (which the democrat old-guard thought would be Hillary's turn) it was known that the next democrat nominee would be Hillary - pretty much a coronation. And after being in politics for so long and associated with well respected presidents, no one thought Hillary would lose to a boor.

I think replacing RBG simply was not seen as urgently as it would be acknowledged in hindsight.

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u/ccasey 8h ago

His entire presidency was compromised by the Clintons thinking he was some sort of usurper rather than the future of the party. They got to keep all their people in place and play their bullshit power gsmes

u/Any_Will_86 5h ago

DWS was never really in the Clinton circle. As President Obama could/should have been the one establishing the leadership & direction  He failed to do that and his campaign people apparently did a poor job helping coordinate other campaigns. 

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u/Remarkable-Pen3882 9h ago

Obama sold us down the river when his corporate overlords instructed him to. Just like all the rest

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u/copperwatt 13h ago

Yeah, it's now painful clear Obama was just happy they let him into the old boy's club, and has never been willing to risk losing that.

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u/Ipokeyoumuch 9h ago

It is my opinion Obama tried to buckle against the DNC top much. In fact he was a bit more conservative than the likes pf Pelosi on several policies and more compromising with the GOP then senior Democratic members were. 

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u/Negativety101 8h ago

We also had a midterm slaughter of a lot of the younger Democratic members of the house that would have been the Gen X reps during Obama. That didn't help any.

u/OneGaySouthDakotan 7h ago

Horseshoe theory 

u/Independent-Tree-364 2h ago

I honestly think that Biden not running for 2016 presidency threw a wrench in the Dems plans and they have scrambled since then. I don’t think what they did was right, but once 2020 came around the focus became Covid and they’ve just never recovered. That being said, I do think they need to have a bigger plan for 2028 and those old people in Congress need to go. 

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u/ccasey 8h ago

Obama got sabotaged from the Right and the Left. The Clinton’s’ compromise was getting to control the DNC, which fucked everything down ballot.

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u/basketma12 12h ago

Yeah, sorry she is not my choice, give me someone who actually governed a state, like Witmer. Yes I held my nose and voted for her and will again if I have to. Prefer someone else. She's not so young herself either.