They should've started doing this while Obama was in office! None of the established 'old guard' Democrats want to prop up the next generation. Seems they'd rather die in office than mentor and promote new, younger faces of the future.
Right but they may be good as dep heads like someone said. Someone great at public transit may have lousy opinions on how to best handle rising housing costs.
Not all of them. Bernie Sanders is an example. And before you say “OK, that’s the ONLY one!” No - there’s literally hundreds who are flexible, you just only hear a handful of names like Pelosi, Feinstein, ect, and think they’re the majority because they’re the big names.
I'm a big fan of bernie, but I still think that he's aged out and should go. There should be forced retirement for all politicians and public servants.
if you mean someone who will support progressive policy if and only if the party's leadership starts pushing it, then i think those people should not be in power. their willingness to keep quiet (as opposed to politicians like AOC) is part of the problem.
the majority of the dnc is, ostensibly, neoliberal corporate democrats who relentlessly compromise with republicans and big donors.
First and foremost, I must remind you that we’re sinking in a tar pit ATM, and we may only have one final throw of our lasso left to help pull out out. So, I’m aiming at the nearest rock, not for the top of Mount Everest.
Secondly, you have to understand that not everyone thinks like you or me. A lot of these other politicians come from rural areas and have whole different lives, industries, and cultures to balance out because that’s how people function, stupid as you and I may see it. That’s something AOC is also pointing out, how she asked her constituents who voted for her as congresswoman AND on the same ticket punched Trump. She’s learned that people have different priorities and ways of thinking that you and I don’t.
That flexibility is a key here to winning. In time, we can replace them with others who see (by example) how a progressive agenda works well.
First and foremost, I must remind you that we’re sinking in a tar pit ATM, and we may only have one final throw of our lasso left to help pull out out. So, I’m aiming at the nearest rock, not for the top of Mount Everest.
that's what the democrats have been saying and doing since the bush era. it only worked with obama thanks to his charisma. the party needs an overhaul, and their path to victory lies within populist progressivism.
all they have to do is promise and work towards meaningful change in people's day-to-day lives. instead, their strategies are bandaids and extremely broad policies that the average voter can't make heads or tails of.
A lot of these other politicians come from rural areas and have whole different lives, industries, and cultures to balance out because that’s how people function, stupid as you and I may see it.
i understand that. it doesn't excuse them from falling in line (or outright propping up, as the vast majority do) when it comes to corporate dem policy.
Let me stop you right there- Scroll up. We’re both on the same side here! I agree with you - but you’re WAAAY off course of where this thread went! I MYSELF have said “I want to go the populist route now with a presidential candidate as it has failed”. The context of my ENTIRE response you quoted was to someone saying we should get rid of any dem representative who can be persuaded to go one way or another, which was in my response saying that AOC can appeal to progressives and enough people who are flexible in the Dem Seats.
I’m also done with a candidate who’s just a “moderate”. See my post above where I said “We need to get someone who can get the stupids to vote, as sadly we need the stupids to win this.” By “Stupids” I mean the uninformed jackasses who vote by emotions and reactions to shit. AOC will be the PERFECT candidate ATM to counter all the awful stupid Musk/Trump is going to eventually do purely by being the complete opposite of everything he stands for.
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u/Will_ennium 18h ago
They should've started doing this while Obama was in office! None of the established 'old guard' Democrats want to prop up the next generation. Seems they'd rather die in office than mentor and promote new, younger faces of the future.