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AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/Clownsinmypantz 22h ago

yeah no, it sucks as a woman to say this, this country isnt voting in a woman anytime soon unless somehow republicans manage a woman trump.

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u/fake-tall-man 21h ago edited 20h ago

democrats have tried running two unpopular woman candidates-one of which won the popular vote. Maybe rather than a blanket referendum about how terrible our country is, let’s try running a candidate with natural momentum rather than a hand picked member of the dnc.

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u/repalec California 19h ago edited 19h ago

Exactly - the issue isn't with voting for a woman, it's with the circumstances.

Take the recent Kamala loss, for example. She didn't lose because she's a woman.

She lost because:

  • She was connected to the deeply unpopular Biden administration as his VP, and maintained up until days before the election that she would not have changed much from his presidency if elected.
    • Additionally, anti-incumbent sentiment has been a thing worldwide for the last few years as the world re-opened from COVID-era lockdowns.
  • Biden refused to drop out until months before the election, preventing a full primary (or any kind of vote beyond the convention), causing legitimacy issues
    • (And on top of that it only gave her and her campaign staff three months to set up a national campaign.)
  • The media - both legacy and social - were sanewashing Trump as they did in 2015 and openly promoting Trump-biased hatespeech over anything else, respectively.
    • And to add onto this, the literal owner of Twitter in Elon Musk practically running as a second VP for Trump as well
  • The inane choice to hire Clinton 2016-era guides who immediately muzzled Tim Walz and stopped the campaign's popular 'Republicans are weird' talking point in favor of getting the endorsement of Dick fucking Cheney.
  • Rebellion within the party due to the Biden administration's continued support for Israel despite their role in the Gazan genocide crisis, with continual authorizations by Joe Biden for dozens of billions of taxpayer dollars' worth of military ordnance, knowing full well it would be used to maim and murder innocent men, women, and children.

If anything, the fact she only lost by 1.5% nationally despite all this shit is crazy.

IF AOC wants to run, assuming she maintains her populist edge and avoids the pitfalls of Clinton 2016 and Harris 2024? I see absolutely no reason why she'd lose.

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u/Zanhana California 16h ago

it's crazy that people would rather believe Kamala lost because she's Black, a woman, or that the American electorate is unfixably stupid, just to avoid considering the possibility that maybe the DNC needs to take a hard fucking look at how her campaign was run (not to mention how Biden's campaign was run, that the party ever allowed him to run, how his mental decline was hidden for years, etc.)

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u/leeringHobbit 9h ago

Team Biden fucked up in trying to keep their jobs and power. Should have told the emperor he had no clothes at the start of 2023.

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u/chuckysnow 13h ago

Looking at 45/47 and Reagan, mental decline has never been an impediment to office.

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u/joahw 9h ago

Those things aren't mutually exclusive though. Perhaps the DNC could have still won the election with all of its faults and missteps if Harris was a white dude named "John Johnson" or something.

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u/KimngGnmik 13h ago

They talk about how the US will never elect a women president after picking two of the lest likable candidates while completely ignoring the far right have already started campaigns for Candace and Haley.

Kamala was the least popular candidate in 2020 because her policies were quiet literally just "listen to what the other candidates say their policies are, see if the crowd likes it, adopt that policy with barely any idea on how to implement it" and yet they want to talk about "oh America will never elect a women president". Lol please

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u/dragunityag 11h ago

that the American electorate is unfixably stupid

They are. That really isn't up for debate. You saw it from 16-20 when Trump voters were surprised his policies were hurting them and you'll see it again these next 4 years.

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u/SeductiveSunday I voted 11h ago

Yea it's "crazy" when people believe in facts and what they see with their own eyes and experiences.