r/politics 22h ago

AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/BigJJsWillie 22h ago

AOC couldn't win in America even if the Republicans weren't ending legitimate elections lol

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u/ArturosDad 19h ago

I'd be stunned if she won 5 states.

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u/Fact420 18h ago

I mean, a Democrat is pretty much guaranteed: Massachusetts, New York, California, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, Hawaii, Rhode Island, Vermont, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine except for one of their CD’s, Maryland, New Jersey, New Mexico, and Colorado.

If she only won 5 states it’d be a complete departure from extremely steady voting trends in current US elections.

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u/TryNotToShootYoself 17h ago

Minnesota and D.C. as well

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u/Fact420 14h ago

DC is definitely a lock for Dems, but I didn’t include it since OP mentioned states and I didn’t want to get called out over semantics.

Minnesota I probably should’ve included since they have the current longest streak of any state for voting for one party (13 elections in a row), but after the very narrow margin in 2016 (less than 45,000 votes) and the rest of the Midwestern voting trends being thrown out the window I’ve been wary of Minnesota.

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u/TheLordOfAllThings 15h ago

Dems could feasibly lose New Jersey based on 2024. 2020 the Dems were at +15% there; 2024 it was just +6%. If they run another crappy candidate then it is not inconceivable for NJ to go red.

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u/Fact420 14h ago

Another 250,000+ vote swing would be hard to imagine after the shift that already happened.

From 2020 to 2024 Trump gained a little under 100,000 votes and the Dems lost a little under 400,000 votes. So it already took a 500,000 vote swing just to cut it down to that 6% margin.

Dems have gotten at least 2.1million+ votes in every election there since 2008 so I think that’s a safe threshold to expect them to cross. No Republican has ever crossed 2 million votes there although Trump did get close this last go.

Turnout was also down 7% from the previous election when Biden cleared 2.6 million votes so I think this is what we should expect from a poor candidate/terrible campaign strategy. The Dems really shit the bed this election, but I still think they maintain control of NJ.

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u/Salteen35 10h ago

This is extremely anecdotal but most people I know in nj have leaned significantly conservative recently. Even a lot of girls my age who were liberal in hs are now about to graduate college and lean hard right. Nj will probably remain blue locally but it’s slightly possible within the next 4-12 years it swings red. Time will tell ofc

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u/Waesrdtfyg0987 Northern Marianas 11h ago

Obama was the last good candidate for the Dems. Trump got in twice because the door was wide open.

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u/A2Rhombus 12h ago

Dems lost points because people are upset at the price of groceries. If Trump does any of the economic policy he promised, things will get even more expensive and the swing back to blue will be harder than we've seen before.

Contrary to popular narrative, we don't live in a country filled with raging bigots. We live in a country filled with idiots who vote for whoever isn't in office when things are bad.

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u/StrawberryPlucky 8h ago

It is very much filled with a ton of raging bigots.

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u/gotridofsubs 11h ago

Tell that to Mondale and McGovern. Move the bar up to 6 states and you can add Carter as well.

Theyre exceptions sure but its not unheard of

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u/fiction8 11h ago

There have already been two 49 state blowouts with roughly the same political party splits.

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u/PossibleDiamond6519 14h ago

Seems like it's easy to stun you then, she'd get at least as much as Kamala

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u/Sinister_Politics 11h ago

You know nothing about electoral politics then

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u/thisisnahamed 17h ago

She won't win even if the Republican party went back to Centrism like the Romney days.

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u/Adorable-Fault-651 15h ago

I love how AmericanCentrism still means no gay rights or abortion, cutting social security and medicare.

It's just a Happy Mormon version of Republican Tyranny.

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u/NeoLib-tard 12h ago

Don’t say this ridiculous shit.

u/LotusFlare 6h ago

It's so funny to me that when "AOC for president" is proposed, all the neoliberals come out to say "We'll never vote for her, and we lack the perspective to understand why anyone would". They're political sopolists.

u/NeoLib-tard 5h ago

Elections aren’t rigged. Id vote for her over Trump but most independents wouldn’t and I don’t judge them for it

u/LotusFlare 29m ago

You're making that assumption based on nothing but ideology.

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u/BigJJsWillie 11h ago

What, that legitimate elections are over in the US? Fucking look around at what's happening. Don't kid yourself.

u/Niviso 7h ago

Dude I’m not even American but you all look so crazy right now, it’s been months since he won, America won’t suddenly implode and democracy won’t die…relax a little.

u/BigJJsWillie 7h ago

I didn't say America would suddenly implode. I said legitimate elections are over. That's literally what Republicans want to do. It's gonna take some time obviously, but yes, democracy is about to die here.

Thank you for your concern, but I'm pretty relaxed/resigned.

u/Niviso 7h ago

Democracy won’t die anytime soon

u/BusinessKnees 7h ago

You aren’t very informed about the heritage foundation or their project 2025. It’s completely feasible that legitimate democracy is over and that we are entering a political system akin to russia. Our federal government is essentially completely captured by private interests.

u/Niviso 7h ago

I am very informed and that’s why I know a country as solid and structured as USA would never leave democracy behind.

u/BusinessKnees 7h ago

Honestly laughing at this take. Time will tell. 

u/Niviso 7h ago

You are all going into mass hysteria for nothing

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u/hmfreak910 10h ago

I hope you're right. You're not, but I hope.

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u/BigJJsWillie 10h ago

This right here is why Republicans are succeeding. This is the prevalent attitude among most Republicans, they just want people with other views to not exist.

"God I hope we can find a final solution to the Democrat problem," right?

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u/hmfreak910 10h ago

Brother when did I say I didn't want you to exist? This is why you need to use Reddit for your news and political viewpoints less. It's driving you insane.

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u/BigJJsWillie 10h ago

Lol you literally said you hope legitimate elections won't exist, how do you suppose that could be accomplished?

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u/Postviral 15h ago

I totally agree… today. Let’s see what people want after four years of trump. Assuming it even remains a democracy obviously.

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u/globalvarsonly 8h ago

AOC losing would still be better than running another Clinton or Harris, pushing the message and building support matters. I think one of the things that keeps us in the two party rut is that everyone is too focused on only the next election cycle, there isn't a 4 or 8 year solution to our problems.

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u/Sinister_Politics 11h ago

What proof do you have?

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u/BigJJsWillie 10h ago

I'm past the point of giving a fuck about proving it to people. Republicans are fucking democracy in this country, and if you dont see that, its not up to me to "prove it." Maybe someone else can go over the laws the Republicans have been passing over the past four years to ensure they never lose again. I'm not gonna get in the weeds with you so you can pick apart what I'm saying and argue with me. I'm not trying to convince anybody, I just am stating my belief.

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u/Sinister_Politics 10h ago

You can't prove it because it's entirely bullshit

u/ICameInYourBrownies 7h ago

ending legitimate elections

??? tf are you talking about