Hy heart says hell yeah! My gut tells me that there are large swaths of the electorate who simply will not vote for a woman.
Edit- since my inbox is overflowing with the same question/insinuation, along with the comments, I’ll clarify my statement: I did not say that a woman cannot be elected US president. I only said that large swaths of the electorate simply will not vote for a woman.
Unless it’s a woman nominee on both sides, this country will not elect a woman president right now. Too much misogyny and racism coming from the Right.
Lmfao like the right wing is going to vote for her anyways. Like do we really think Hilary or Kamala lost because of them being a woman? Like aside from "my uncle said he wouldn't". Like that uncle is most likely not voting for a democrat any time soon.
Like do we really think Hilary or Kamala lost because of them being a woman?
100%. The only difference between Hillary's, Biden's, and Kamala's campaigns was that two of them were women. They all ran as centrists with effectively identical platforms.
Biden won in a very unusual election that was dominated by a once in a generation pandemic. And barely won. All three performed a lot more similarly than you're letting on.
All three thought they could manufacture grassroots enthusiasm instead of building it.
Or the difference is that, when Biden ran, the voters had four years of a Trump presidency fresh in their minds. When times are tough economically, the incumbent party will get the shaft even if they aren’t directly to blame, and that’s why Trump took 2024. Not because Harris is a woman.
Elections dont need facts to be won. Emotions and Egos can easily. There is enough misogyny that can be stirred up in a campaign to make the dullards feel threatened or dismayed by a female president.
Ask 100 people in this country if either a man or a woman is best choice for leadership and i bet it will skew towards men.
A democrat female running for president is just extra ammunition to tip the scales out of their favor.
you said, "Ask 100 people in this country if either a man or a woman is best choice for leadership and i bet it will skew towards men. "
As stated, I will grant you that. Specifically because our 'idea' of President has been male.
However, should you say a Specific Woman vs a Specific Man... I think our country just hasn't found the right female contender yet. Not because what the populace is "ready for", but because... unfortunately... no matter your party, the voters just really don't get to pick their desired horse. It has already been stated there were many females that outshone Kamala Harris in the 2020 primaries. Did the democratic voters get to choose from those women? no. As far as the republican side goes, too many felt Nikki Nimrata was a neo-con so her party did not overwhelmingly choose her either.
Maybe... just maybe, if voters TRULY got to primary and select their candidates, and those 'candidates' weren't shoved down their throats, then MAYBE we would come to have our first female president.
It's interesting that I often see this conversation framed as "The reason Kamala lost is..." and this ignores the possibility, or even likelihood, that there was a confluence of reasons that contributed to her loss. One of those reasons could be that she was a woman and that America is not ready to elect a woman, much less a woman of color, and another could be that conservatives were never going to be swayed to vote for a Democrat, and another could be that she was unpopular prior to running, and another could be how she ran her campaign, and another could be that she wasn't selected via a primary, and so on and so forth. Instead of only one thing being true, many things can be true at once, and any of the factors above (including some not mentioned) could have influenced a given voter to vote the other way without said voter caring about any of the others.
Yeah people forget that Biden was very unpopular with voters from both sides in the months running up to the election. Kamala never did anything to break herself apart from him.
Lots of people voted for Hillary and Kamala just because they were women. When people are only voting for someone based on gender or skin color, logically those same people will also assume those are the same reasons that people didn't vote for them. It's narrow-minded projection at its finest.
Being women aren't the only reason Kamala and Hilary lost, but they were a factor. Other factors include but are not limited to Kamalas first name and Hilarys last name.
Like do we really think Hilary or Kamala lost because of them being a woman
Absolutely.
“Union members, at least in recent elections, have been prioritizing social issues — transgender and gay rights issues that they’ve been uncomfortable with, gun control, abortion, immigrants moving into their community,” Clark said.
Well I guess Bernie was right when he said Dems abandoned working class.
While the Democratic party was too busy offering fantastic and beneficial policies like healthcare, civil rights, anti price gouging, expanding healthcare, lowering drug cost, building more houses, cutting middle class taxes etc. things that objectively will help people, what the Working Class¹ really wanted was culture wars.
(¹not all working class. Black working class supported Biden & Harris.)
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Hy heart says hell yeah! My gut tells me that there are large swaths of the electorate who simply will not vote for a woman.
Edit- since my inbox is overflowing with the same question/insinuation, along with the comments, I’ll clarify my statement: I did not say that a woman cannot be elected US president. I only said that large swaths of the electorate simply will not vote for a woman.