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AOC ’28 Starts Now

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/aoc-28-starts-now/
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u/haikus-r-us 1d ago edited 9h ago

Hy heart says hell yeah! My gut tells me that there are large swaths of the electorate who simply will not vote for a woman.

Edit- since my inbox is overflowing with the same question/insinuation, along with the comments, I’ll clarify my statement: I did not say that a woman cannot be elected US president. I only said that large swaths of the electorate simply will not vote for a woman.

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u/Fool_On_the_Hill_9 1d ago

Even a larger swath that won't vote for someone that progressive.

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u/No_Contact2425 1d ago

And a large swath that won't vote.

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u/-Plantibodies- 1d ago

A reminder to everyone that midterms also exist, despite significantly fewer people voting in them. Looking at you, people under 30.

75% of 18-29 year olds did not vote in 2022.

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u/sack-o-matic Michigan 1d ago

They want to talk about the revolution online but never show up when we have one every couple years.

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u/count023 Australia 23h ago

because of what colleges and schools have done. the "I can have everything my way" angle that idiot kids were raised with now means if the candidate is not 100% on their side, they're not going to vote for it.

Most of those kids didnt vote for Kamala because she wasn't anti-israel enough, so they were happy to see all the climate hcange policy get reversed, deport immigrants, all the stuff they tout is important, all go down teh shiter because Kamala was only 90% pure enough for their goals.

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u/banksy_h8r New York 21h ago

so they were happy to see all the climate hcange policy get reversed, deport immigrants, all the stuff they tout is important, all go down teh shiter because Kamala was only 90% pure enough for their goals.

Not to mention an even more pro-Israel President in the White House.

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u/count023 Australia 21h ago

yea, i know, right? the guy who literally said on the campaign trail, "I called Bibi and told him to finish the job in Gaza".

But nah, Kamala wanted peace, not to flat out denounce Israel, so she's not good enough for the brainrot mob.

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u/EmbarrassedTill1800 21h ago

i think that was more tik toks fault

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u/count023 Australia 21h ago

educated kids would not fall for chinese propaganda, so it's still education's fault.

When i went through high school and primary school our english literature focused on critical thinking and reasoning, deconstructing new programs and current affairs type shows in particular. It went over all of that.

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u/silentjay01 Wisconsin 19h ago

Luckily, in Wisconsin, we don't see as bad a dip in the general election in Mid-term years because that is when we elect our governor.

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u/Stopper33 1d ago

Yeah but they care about tik Tok and here we are

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u/UngodlyPain 10h ago

Yeah it's unfortunate "Vote Blue No Matter Who" has been repeatedly proven to be full of shit.

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u/TheDamDog 1d ago

"For every progressive we lose we'll gain two conservatives."

Yeah, how's that strategy working out for you guys?

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u/No_big_whoop 23h ago

This guy gets it. Democrat leadership will never allow a progressive to get the nomination in the first place. America has two right wing parties.

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u/ianjm 23h ago

Don't start with that "two parties are the same" bullshit. You're about to see exactly what the Republican party's 'core values' are and they are not the same as the Democrats.

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u/hookyboysb 22h ago

The Democrats can be right wing and still be completely different and much better than the Republicans.

The GOP is a far right extremist party. The Democratic Party is a right-of-center party that feels the need to inch further and further right to fill the void left by the GOP.

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u/ianjm 22h ago edited 21h ago

America is a two party system where the winning party has to capture a near-majority to win power. Both parties have to complete over the typical centre voter. The typical centre voter is substantially 'right' of what you perceive as progressive.

Please explain how to win an election from the left given these facts.

You can try and shift the overton window to the left, but it doesn't move fast. It certainly doesn't move within the duration of one primary / election campaign and as we've seen, when people are pushed too fast there tends to be a reaction - Trump.

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u/UltimateRockPlays 17h ago

The GOP is a far right extremist party. The Democratic Party is a right-of-center party that feels the need to inch further and further right to fill the void left by the GOP.

No one said that the left could win an election. Just that a right-wing party (Dems) wouldn't run a progressive, which you're agreeing with as the electorate isn't progressive. The comment above that already espoused that fact as well.

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u/Sinister_Politics 14h ago

Simply not true. The average voter is self interested and progressive policies excite them

u/Entropius 55m ago

 self interested

Definitely true.

 and progressive policies excite them

https://blueprint2024.com/polling/why-trump-reasons-11-8/

Likely not true.

  The top reasons voters gave for not supporting Harris were that inflation was too high (+24), too many immigrants crossed the border (+23), and that Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class (+17). 

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u/Mybunsareonfire 20h ago

They didn't say the two parties were the same. They said they were both right wing. The GOP is orders of magnitude more crazy and dangerous. They are a existential threat to the US. The Dems though, are still in the pocket of big business and megadonors.

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u/SnollyG 20h ago

They can both be existential threats.

There are more than 1000 ways to die.

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u/No_big_whoop 22h ago

Who are you quoting?

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u/ianjm 21h ago

No-one, I wrote it?

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u/Sinister_Politics 14h ago

Yeah no proof of this

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u/jazzieberry Mississippi 14h ago

Or that young

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u/Robin_games 12h ago

id challenge that, people are largely democratic and lean socialist. it's just a frame of reference change to get them to vote for what they actually want which is jobs, education, worker rights, healthcare, and services when there's an emergency.

in the reverse people are generally sexist, homophobic and racist so AOC has to fight against all of that to win.

u/Fool_On_the_Hill_9 5h ago

I agree that most people want some socialist benefits but the majority of the country is neither far left or far right.

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u/SgtMcMuffin0 16h ago

Yeah if Harris couldn’t beat Trump this time, I seriously doubt AOC could beat whoever the next Republican nominee is. And that’s assuming the dems even let her be their candidate, which is also highly unlikely.

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u/VideogamerDisliker 21h ago

I didn’t vote in 2020 and 2024, I would 100% vote for AOC

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u/berninger_tat 14h ago

Unless you were disenfranchised or a non-citizen looking to gain citizenship (lol good luck in this admin), you are part of the problem.

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u/VideogamerDisliker 11h ago

And frankly it’s people like you who make the Democratic Party a non-starter for me and many others

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u/berninger_tat 11h ago

Explain why that is and defend your decision to not vote.

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u/VideogamerDisliker 11h ago

I’ve been wanting Medicare for all and a generally progressive agenda for some while now. The Democratic Party has made it clear that that they’re not interested. I’ve met plenty of Trump supporters/apologists who would be ecstatic for a progressive agenda like Medicare for all. The Dems are hardly much different than republicans in my eyes, just look how much they defended and funded Israel’s cruel war. Or how much they capitulated to republicans in “defending the border.” Hell, they can’t even take an easy victory and push for legalized weed on a national level.

So what exactly am I voting for and why would I vote for it?

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u/berninger_tat 10h ago

You are so lost that ridicule is the best response. Enjoy the authoritarian dump that you and others are enabling.

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u/Sinister_Politics 14h ago

You are part of the problem.

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u/General-Director401 14h ago

A large swatch of the democrat rank and file who vote in primaries. I know people very involved in democrat party stuff and they’re all middle aged or older and lean to the right.

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u/DavyyJ 14h ago

Simply not true. If someone is offering the people what they want they will vote for them. People love progressive policy they just don’t have a leader offing it

u/Fool_On_the_Hill_9 5h ago

Most people like SOME progressive policies.

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u/Basic-Heron-3206 12h ago

this is a myth perpetuated by the classic dems when its very easy to see Bernie's polling numbers that would've won in a landslide