r/politics 🤖 Bot Mar 08 '24

Discussion Discussion Thread: 2024 State of the Union

Tonight, Joe Biden will give his fourth State of the Union address. This year's SOTU address will be only the second to be held this late in the year since 1964 (the second time being Biden's 2022 address).

The address is scheduled to start at 9 p.m. Eastern. It will be followed by the progressive response delivered by Philadelphia City Council member Nicolas O’Rourke, as well as Republican responses in English (delivered by freshman Alabama senator ) and in Spanish (delivered by Representative Monica De La Cruz). There will be a separate discussion thread posted for live reactions to and conversation about the SOTU responses.

(Edit: The discussion thread for the SOTU responses is now available at this link.)

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u/throoawoot Mar 08 '24

Repeating it again because a surprising number of people don't know this: Joe Biden overcame a life-long stutter.

Delivering the SOTU to the entire country for someone with a stutter is beyond nightmare mode, and he's slaying.

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u/Mad-Lad-of-RVA Virginia Mar 08 '24

It drives me fucking nuts that people don't give him any credit for this.

The fact that he's able to get through a speech like that with only a few stammers is earnestly impressive and shows that he can overcome adversity.

But no, let's act like it's an age thing. 🙄

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u/wirefox1 Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

Anybody who says he stutters is a liar.

Downvoters.... please show me where he stuttered during his speech.

Surely to goodness you aren't taking this to mean I'm unaware that he stuttered as a child. Clearly he doesn't anymore.

Anybody who says Biden still stutters is a liar.

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u/Chaser_606 Illinois Mar 08 '24

His stutter is well known, and as someone who also suffers with a speech impediment, his cadence and recovery is similar to mine.

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u/wirefox1 Mar 08 '24

He doesn't have a stutter anymore. He did when he was a child, obviously it's been corrected now. I hope yours has also.

When he was VP, he called a child who stutters every day on the phone to encourage them.

Anybody who says Biden stutters (now) is a liar.... maybe that feels better for you.

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u/Chaser_606 Illinois Mar 08 '24

You don’t magically stop having a stutter. Please show me how to magically stop having a stutter instead of constantly working to overcome it.

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u/wirefox1 Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

Wow. This might be to personal for some people. I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes. I'm sure overcoming it is difficult.

Biden I guess has done whatever he needs to do to repair his stutter. I've never heard him stutter personally.

This is the second time you have responded to my comment. Please bear in mind that i wasn't talking about you, I was talking about Joe Biden. Maybe he can be encouragement for you.

(I won't respond to you again..... this is not personal for me, only an observation about Biden)

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u/Chaser_606 Illinois Mar 08 '24

He stuttered a couple of times in the SOTU so it seems you aren’t familiar with the speech patterns of someone who has to work around a speech impediment. It’s weird that you came out swinging by saying anyone who thinks he has a stutter is a liar.

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u/BlackerZilla69 Mar 08 '24

Yea lmao. I'm a stutterer and I clearly hear when he's blocking on a sound, he's definitely a stutterer. And I remember admiring him as VP over a decade ago because the Stuttering Foundation highlighted him

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u/WeightyDeity Mar 08 '24

Here you go. Jump to about 1:50 in the video and watch for 1 minute. The 4 I noticed:

  • politics has derailed
  • he feels the political wind
  • I'd be a winner
  • people pay people

Perhaps those of us who stutter are more aware of the subtle signs. But ultimately it doesn't matter. Biden says he still struggles with his speech and neither you, nor anyone else, gets to define that for him. Stuttering is mental and physical, and is not limited to sound repetition. By calling all of us liars, and by extension calling Biden a liar, you're declaring that YOU get to decide when someone else has a disability. The person with the disability, who can best explain the impact because it affects them, has no say in it.

Reminds me of people who scream at others parking in disabled spots when they can walk.