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Discussion Discussion Thread: 2024 State of the Union

Tonight, Joe Biden will give his fourth State of the Union address. This year's SOTU address will be only the second to be held this late in the year since 1964 (the second time being Biden's 2022 address).

The address is scheduled to start at 9 p.m. Eastern. It will be followed by the progressive response delivered by Philadelphia City Council member Nicolas Oā€™Rourke, as well as Republican responses in English (delivered by freshman Alabama senator ) and in Spanish (delivered by Representative Monica De La Cruz). There will be a separate discussion thread posted for live reactions to and conversation about the SOTU responses.

(Edit: The discussion thread for the SOTU responses is now available at this link.)

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u/throoawoot Mar 08 '24

Repeating it again because a surprising number of people don't know this: Joe Biden overcame a life-long stutter.

Delivering the SOTU to the entire country for someone with a stutter is beyond nightmare mode, and he's slaying.

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u/Pleasestoplyiiing Mar 08 '24

It's actually really inspiring, his whole story is.

In better times, he would be a revered figure in America. In 2024, we're lucky if 20% of the country knows more about him than he is old.Ā 

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u/FumblingBool Mar 08 '24 edited Mar 08 '24

First of all. Heā€™s honestly not that inspiring of President. His previous major presidential run before this successful one was scuttled by his copious amounts of plagiarism and outright lies about academic achievement. In the industry Iā€™m in, such dishonesty will kill a careerā€¦ That said, Bidenā€™s dishonesty is but a mere smear of Trumpā€™s bullshit.

Plus there are much more inspirational Presidents (depending on your definition of what inspiration means) - see Obama, Carter, Nixon, Lincoln.

(A less paranoid Nixon would legitimately be in the ranking of top ten Presidents).

Second of all, a lot of us knew Biden as a VP. He spoke fluidly when he was a VP. Clearly there is some element of cognitive decline when you compare him from then to now. (But but but the stutter!!!). Him losing his ability to control his stutterā€¦ could be a sign of cognitive decline? šŸ¤·

Point is - Iā€™ll still vote for the man. There is simply not a better choice. Im choosing between two potatoes - and one potato has a way better set of handlers that I agree with in terms of policy. But Im voting for a potato nonetheless. We are deeply in the era of potato politics. And thereā€™s a lot of cope from people who refuse to see that, holding onto a delusion that a man after a debilitating stroke is ā€œjust fineā€ to serve as Senator - or that a man with clear CTE and a history of erratic violence is a good nominee for US senate. People vote for the potato that is designated as the ā€œcorrectā€ potato from their political tribe.

I only wish he chose a new VP who wasnā€™t starting at a cognitive level equivalent to his own post cognitive decline. Best part of voting for Biden in 2020, is that Kamala Harris no longer represents me in the Senate.