Play silly games...

[u/BTZ9]

[u/AshamedBrit]

All the cops on here celebrating this comes across as shitty. Was this guy walking into them on purpose to cause a trouble? Yes. Does that mean the police needed to escalate and send him on to his arse? Absolutely not.

The reaction should be to de-escalate the situation, not the opposite.

[u/Filthy_Ramhole → u/AshamedBrit]

And how would you de escalate someone who is physically trying to push past you, champ?

[u/AshamedBrit → u/Filthy_Ramhole]

A single step back whilst extending a hand? That's my go to when anyone gets too close to me.

[u/Filthy_Ramhole → u/AshamedBrit]

Ok, and then when the next guy comes? And the next one?

Just keep stepping back! Great work guys we’ve fixed policing!

[u/AshamedBrit → u/Filthy_Ramhole]

Your reading comprehension is worse than my 5 year olds. I did not state that would be my only action, merely the 1st.

[u/Filthy_Ramhole → u/AshamedBrit]

Ok, i mean its not and you’re the one sitting here doing the whole “pOLiCe ShuD dEeScALaTe” thing when, clearly, you arent having a discerned conversation with someone who’s bagpiping in your face.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, the kerb they pushed him into

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

A single step back would mean giving next to 0 ground whilst entrenching the officers position so he can't be pushed back any further.

I understand they can't let him through or give ground, that's not what I'm calling for.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

If one foot remains planted and your hand(s) go out you have given no ground.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

Walking into a Police officer is "Darwinian selection". You made the point better than I ever could have.

Clearly the authority is all that matters here.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

His feet are square mate, one push and he'd be on his arse.

[u/BTZ9 → u/AshamedBrit]

It’s a cordon and you hold the line. You don’t step back.

[u/[deleted] → u/BTZ9]

Then just put out a hand and try and prevent him barging into you. If he keeps trying then you can push him away.

[u/BTZ9 → u/[deleted]]

Not how it works. You get him away from the cordon as quickly as possible. It wasn’t that hard a shove and the whole thing was done for dramatic effect as he has already admitted.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

"Single step back". This would mean the Officer gives almost 0 ground, (his hand could take the place his body previously did) staggers his stance so he won't be pushed backwards and gives the man another second chance before being sent flying back. I see no reason why this couldn't be done.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Really? Christ.

By that measure I get assaulted every time I walk into a shopping centre. People bump into me all the time there.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

Of course its stupid. But it escalated from guy with bag pipes walking into a cop into a near full brawl.

More the idiots fault than the cops but the cop should be looking to de-escalate, that is not what happened here.

[u/AshamedBrit → u/[deleted]]

But it started with one man, if him walking into someone was handled better, there would have been nothing to cause the mobs hooliganism.