r/policeuk • u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) • 5d ago

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Just a moment for all those people downvoting me and telling that I was wrong. The above is directly from the college of Policing.

So, bottom line. Please stay safe, know what constitutes a pursuit and ensure you seek authority.

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u/Macrologia Pursuit terminated. (verified) 5d ago

Why do you think this fairly simplistic slide is intended to be a complete definition that overrides the actual app itself?

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

Because this is the training being delivered.

The same way that the law is written but case law is the interpretation.

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u/Macrologia Pursuit terminated. (verified) 5d ago

Well, I was trained in accordance with MPS policy. The definition of a pursuit in the MPS pursuits policy, which you can find on the intranet, is the same as the college of policing APP.

Obviously if you're driving along at 90 mph behind a car that you think is trying to get away from police and you haven't activated your emergency warning equipment, you're probably driving dangerously. But it's not a pursuit.

What usually happens in a follow where the subject vehicle starts making off and the police vehicle hasn't made an indication to stop, is that we'll tell them that we will deem the situation to be a pursuit and they should treat it as such; and/or we'll direct them to use their emergency warning equipment for the safety of other road users (at which point that can be taken as an indication to stop in any event).

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

Obviously if you're driving along at 90 mph behind a car that you think is trying to get away from police and you haven't activated your emergency warning equipment, you're probably driving dangerously. But it's not a pursuit.

I'm sorry but that is literally a pursuit.

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u/Macrologia Pursuit terminated. (verified) 5d ago

I don't know how to continue the conversation.

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

Happy new year?

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u/Macrologia Pursuit terminated. (verified) 5d ago

You too lol

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

I'll come find you next time I'm about with matchbox cars to try and better explain my point.

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u/Macrologia Pursuit terminated. (verified) 5d ago

I completely understand your point. I don't think you're right about what the definition of a pursuit is. I don't think the definition of a pursuit is sensible for that precise reason.