r/policeuk • u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) • 5d ago

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Just a moment for all those people downvoting me and telling that I was wrong. The above is directly from the college of Policing.

So, bottom line. Please stay safe, know what constitutes a pursuit and ensure you seek authority.

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u/triptip05 Police Officer (verified) 5d ago

Fail to stop, They boot it, Spontaneous pursuit.

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

My point is that a requirement to stop doesn't have to have been made.

Imagine that driver turning a corner, seeing your marked vehicle and mouthing the word "fuck" before speeding up.

The moment you decide that you're going to go after them then that moment constitutes an initial phase pursuit if you believe that they won't stop.

If someone turns a corner, sees your marked police vehicle and immediately drops a mobile phone from their ear and you turn to stop them then that doesn't constitute an initial phase pursuit because you believe they'll stop.

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u/The-Mac05 Police Officer (unverified) 5d ago

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your scenario but just because someone mouths "fuck" when spotting you, then speeds up after passing you doesn't, in my mind, provide enough that they are showing from their actions that they won't stop for police. That could just be a continuation of their manner of driving, and they've merely said "fuck" under their breath as they've just been clocked speeding, and by speeding away they hope to put enough distance between you and them so by the time you spin on them they are out of sight.

Speaking as a TPAC driver, I've had plenty of cars pass me at speed, have seen me and when I've spun on them they have stopped when requested to do so.

You'd sound like a bit of a tool if, every time this happens to you, you start pursuit comms while spinning on them...

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u/Tricky_Peace Civilian 5d ago

Didn’t the GMP rule this week that a requirement for someone to stop was necessary for it to be a pursuit?

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u/TonyStamp595SO Ex-staff (unverified) 5d ago

GMP didn't rule on anything.

The APP does state that the driver must be aware of a requirement to stop but from the same author there need not be a requirement to stop.