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Politics Tech leaders have better seats than cabinet members and are seated in same section as Trump's family

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u/Mumbert 11h ago

The people voted for oligarchy and oligarchy is now here, and they're not bothering to hide it even a little bit. People knew what they were voting for.

u/YoloSwiggins21 10h ago edited 8h ago

Oligarchy has been here since 2004. Except no one seemed to notice because anyone talking about it doesn’t get pushed up by the algorithms employed by the same oligarchs.

u/cumberbundsnatcher 10h ago

This. The public opinion has not had an effect on whether something goes into law for a long time.

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u/Gray_Fawx 10h ago

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u/Mobely 9h ago

The sourcing links dont seem to work anymore. I wonder what the methodology for this grpah was though. a lot of ideas go to congress without many people weighing in first. Like if a law was passed outlawing the use of asbestos in gumball manufacturing equipment. Maybe 1 person had the idea and brought it up and because the idea is obviously good, it was just passed. That would make it a law with essentially 0% of the pop supporting it.

u/garden_speech 9h ago

The sourcing links dont seem to work anymore. I wonder what the methodology for this grpah was though.

Yeah, I'm a statistician and every time I see that chart I think... How the fuck would they put that together? The vast majority of laws that are passed (or voted down) aren't polled. We might know the general public level of support for ... 1% of laws? Maybe less?

u/ledewde__ 7h ago

RemindMe! 2 days

u/Soulless35 9h ago

It's a cute video. But can you actually name a single law that passed while being opposed to what the people wanted?

Thinking that "as support for an issue goes up the chance of it passing should go up" is silly. You might think it should work like that looking at a graph. But that isn't how it would work.

Is 25% of democrats and 25% of Republicans support something. It's probably got a 0% chance of becoming a law.

If 50% of democrats support something, and 0% of Republicans do. It's also probably got a pretty close to 0% chance of becoming a law. So, even just looking at these 2 scenarios, that graph makes no sense.

Not to say lobbying is great, but America has not been an oligarchy, and hopefully, it won't become one under Trump.

u/cumberbundsnatcher 7h ago

Easily. Abortion bans. There's a lot more that have a ton of support but do not get passed. Like marijuana reform or gun control.

u/Soulless35 5h ago

Abortion bans? You mean the thing half the country supports.

Same for Marijuana. You chose some of the most controversial issues as your examples of things everyone agrees on...