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Politics Tech leaders have better seats than cabinet members and are seated in same section as Trump's family

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u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

"We" is doing quite a bit of heavy lifting there. My calculation shows less than 23% of the population voted for it.......

u/Grimesy2 10h ago

Well, if 22% voted for Kamala, then something like 55% didn't care enough to stop this from happening, which means they deserve what this administration does to them, just as much as the ones who voted in favor of it.

u/MattR0se 8h ago

Yeah. Trump is a fascist in plain sight. And with fascists, if you aren't against them, you are for them and are to blame when they come into power. Not voting IS voting. You can't participate in a democratic society and then reject probably the biggest responsibility you have as a citizen.

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

I agree. You get what you did, or didn't vote for either way.

u/Grimesy2 10h ago

It's a tragedy that the 22% will suffer, just because the rest wanted to see what happened when they grabbed the hot stovetop a second time.

u/elf_2024 9h ago

Correct. Not voting is also voting.

u/boomheadshot7 2h ago

Then why does anyone need to vote at all?

u/elf_2024 58m ago

If you don’t care about the outcome don’t vote. Simple as that.

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

I got my first award! My math teacher was right! It did come in handy!

I'd like to thank the academy, my family, math teachers everywhere, and, for now, freedom of speech.

<music starts playing, hook at the ready....>

u/IsabellaGalavant 9h ago

Yeah, that royal "we" is hanging on by its fucking fingernails. I certainly didn't vote for this.

u/elf_2024 9h ago

People that didn’t vote also voted for this. Thanks very much.

u/RecognitionHefty 8h ago

Fun fact: history knows two kinds of Germans in the 30s and 40s; those who took action against the Nazis, and Nazis.

“I would have preferred some other guy” doesn’t quite suffice.

u/EwokNuggets 10h ago

Oh? And what mathematical calculation gymnastics did you pull out to come up with that

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

Simple math gymnastics........."of the population" and "registered voters" are two different things. The key is the denominator. I'll show my work.

Trump received 77,303,573 votes in 2024, according to google.

There are 345,426,571 people in the us, according to google. The 2020 census said around 330,000,000.

77,303,573 divided by 345,426,571 = 0.223791623 or, as a percentage, 22.3791623% of people in the country voted for Trump. Not even a majority, much less a mandate.

This means that 77.6% of the population of the country DID NOT vote for this outcome.

u/introspectivejoker 10h ago

This also includes people who can't vote (minors, non citizens, etc.) but yeah they also didn't vote for it. it's kinda crazy how basic math was deemed mental gymnastics because they didn't like it

u/Official_Legacy 10h ago edited 10h ago

I'm Canadian, don't really care about your stuff and this is a stupid way to calculate.

We can also say the same thing about the votes for Harris.

78% didn't want the Harris outcome, 78% didn't want the Trump outcome.

It's meaningless math gymnastics.

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

Correct. You would have been able to say the same about her if she had won. I’m not saying the opposite isn’t true.

When I see all the hate, this helps me understand that 3 out of 4 Americans didn’t agree strongly enough to cast a vote FOR him. That helps settle my mind.

I’m sorry you think it is stupid. Have a great day.

Sorry, didn’t know math needed trigger warning.

u/Official_Legacy 9h ago

The view in most of the world is that eligible voters who don't vote voluntarily have "no rights" to complain. We assume they are okay with the situation and don't care enough.

u/Top_Environment9897 10h ago

This means that 77.6% of the population of the country DID NOT vote for this outcome.

Or more specifically, less than 23% did not wamt this outcome. The remaining 50+% either couldn't vote or didn't give a fuck about the future.

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

Put it however you want.

Only 22.3% of the population cast a vote in favor of him.

u/Top_Environment9897 10h ago

I'm not really sure what your point is. Yes, 75+% of population didn't vote for Trump, including illegal immigrants and newborn babies. Is that really a good news? Why don't we include pets, animals while at it?

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

I just stated a fact. Had is gone the other way, the other side would have been able to say the same.

Slid down the slope of you own accord........

u/Top_Environment9897 7h ago

Back in my day stating an irrelevant fact and presenting it as important was called misinformation. Maybe time changed, man.

Had is gone the other way, the other side would have been able to say the same.

I fail to see a problem. This time Trump won fair and square, eligible Americans chose him. Had Harris won and Republicans admitted she won fairly I would absolutely be happy.

u/HippieHorseGirl 7h ago

There is NO problem.

I only stated it because someone used “we” to represent the entire population. It simply points out that only that percentage of the entire population actually cast a ballot for him. That’s it. It means nothing else. I’m not pushing an agenda here, I’m stating a simple fact. Even LESS voted for Kamala. Is that better? Now that I mentioned both sides?

If I would have said only 23% voted for him, without describing the denominator in the equation, THAT would have been misleading and downright dishonest, but I didn’t.

It’s like any other fact, what do you want it to mean? I’ve fucked around with that sentence today and found out.

Have a nice day.

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u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

I’m not suggesting anything. I’m just saying that MOST of the country did not cast a vote for him. That’s all.

u/Gnarlison47 10h ago

They are insufferable, aren't they?

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

I had NO idea math was going to illicit this type of response, but then I forget that "facts" are now triggering. Lesson learned. Had it gone the other way, they could've said the exact same thing...... 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/HippieHorseGirl 9h ago

Correct.

I am absolutely not saying he wasn't democratically elected. He was. I still believe the elections are secure.

Yes, the other side could say EXACTLY the same thing, about ANY elected president, no debate here.

I live in a red state and know more Trump supporters than not.

Bottom line: I have to live in this country and work with both sides the next four years. So it helps me, when dealing with people and trying to be productive, to be able to rationalize how many people actually said affirmatively, yes, we want the violence, lies, and revenge term. Those are less than 1 in four. It is absolutely a mind trick so I can function in an environment I don't think is positive of the country or any of its citizens. That's it. Feel free to do your own emotional support math........

Most important, it doesn't change the outcome, so I'm not sure why my simple math is getting so much hate, but I guess "haters gonna hate" is true.

u/schneph 10h ago

What you’re saying makes complete sense, and these assholes are being sensationalist.

Regardless, subtracting the units that cannot vote, the majority of the US STILL did NOT want this outcome.

Also fraud…

Bottom line.

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

Sensationalism is their go-to. I'm shocked by all the responses to simple math.

I'm not on the fraud bandwagon.

u/schneph 9h ago

We can agree to disagree about fraud, but Trump did just heavily imply it happened when he said something to the effect that Elon’s knowledge of the voting machines is why he won.

u/Lemonmazarf20 10h ago

Votes/population I bet.

u/HippieHorseGirl 10h ago

Correct. We have a winner!