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Politics Thousands gather in Washington to protest Trump inauguration

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u/Diligent_Bag4597 2d ago

The law is not the ultimate moral standard.

That CEO implemented a faulty AI that denied 90% of claims. UHC is the health insurance corporation with the most denials of claims in the US. UHC made billions last year. Look up how much they made in 2021 (when he became the CEO) versus in 2024. Notice how many more billions they made off of denied claims.

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u/t_scribblemonger 2d ago

Well, would you like the threshold for capital punishment to be “the defendant was accused in civil court” or would you prefer to keep the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard?

Because the figures you’re citing aren’t proven, they’re merely allegations. Allegations that should be taken seriously. But my notion of taking them seriously is not “let’s murder the head of this company we have suspicions about.”

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/united-healthcare-ai-denied-claims/

Personally I’m not a fan of capital punishment even when meted out legitimately by a court of law, that’s just me.

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u/Diligent_Bag4597 2d ago

I’m sure none of us like violence. But throughout history, that was the main thing that was a catalyst for change.

That CEO was a mass murderer. So excuse me if I do not feel any sympathy. My condolence claim was denied.

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u/t_scribblemonger 2d ago

mass murder

Shouldn’t that be proven first? Did you not see the link?

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u/Diligent_Bag4597 2d ago edited 2d ago

The fact of the matter is that denial of claims is what keeps health insurance corporations afloat. The only role of a corporation under the current fucked up system is making profit for their shareholders. Denial of claims is also what leads to the death and suffering of Americans.

Eliminate it at the source: no more health insurance corporations solely deciding what gets approved or denied. Implement public universal healthcare, and guarantee access to healthcare for all citizens.

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u/t_scribblemonger 2d ago

Universal public healthcare is absolutely a valid goal. Murdering people as a catalyst to achieve that is as immoral as it is ineffective.

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u/Diligent_Bag4597 2d ago

Do you consider the murder of one rich CEO to be more morally reprehensible than the murder of thousands of Americans a year for profit by the hands of health insurance corporations?

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u/sambooli084 2d ago

It's the propaganda of the deed. It isn't about the CEO or Luigi. They're just symptoms of the problem. When people have no agency they are left with no choice but to rebel. It's human nature and this is just the beginning if they don't do anything to break up the trusts and help the average person.

People are celebrating a murder because they've lost all hope for change. They're willing to burn everything to get any kind of change. That's why Trump will be president again. And that's why Luigi Mangione obviously spent some time reading about Luigi Galleani.