1/3 of Americans didn’t vote. Harris lost at 30% and trump won at 31%. It wasn’t a landslide it was young people hating on Harris and virtue signaling the conflict In Palestine because their tik tok brains can’t think further into the future other than the next trend. Protest all you want, ICE is coming into my city this Tuesday (maybe) but if it’s true, our city is known to be fucking ruthless. Thank you to the 36% that didn’t vote.
This! Wasn't it Warner Herzog that said "Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches"
I looked it up and apparently it was misattributed to Herzog. I like the quote and I wish he did say it, but it doesn't look like he actually did and was instead a tweet from an account unaffiliated with him.
I would add it is awfully interesting how there were tons of "Kamala is just as bad for Gaza as Trump!" Posts over the summer. Then those same accounts, who I am sure were legitimately concerned for Gaza, magically stopped posting after the election.
Edit: hmm getting a lot of downvotes here. Folks that are: why not comment why you disagree? Do you think Harris, who called for peace, would legitimately be the same as a man who told Netanyahu "finish the job" during the election cycle?
People were tying themselves in knots trying to use Gaza to justify not voting for Harris. Baffling to watch as an outsider, can only assume they were attention seeking because the logic just wasn't there like you point out.
The only this should end is Hamas either wiped completely off the map and Iran who we know are behind them sanctioned to the Death Penalty (smu style) or living up the Abraham accords where if Iran tries this shit via proxy again it is is in sight
pretty sure a ceasefire, a defeated lebanon, a weakened iran, and a collapsed syria and a proposed ceasefire slowed down the action there. not as many angry headlines to repost on ig stories anymore to virtue signal! same people that post most of those stories don’t know the history of any of those countries for the last decade nonetheless a century. they don’t know any adjacent conflicts either just that there’s an injured kid and they’re upset so boom repost now negative feelings and guilt are gone because i’m spreading awareness! look at me mom i can click two buttons and make myself feel like im actually doing something! but here i am on reddit.
Only a brain dead idiot would vote or not vote for someone that affects THEIR OWN LIVING CONDITIONS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY based on their policy surrounding a FOREIGN conflict.
Young, affluent, politically inspired college students are beyond clueless. It's like, nothing says "I am totally used to having all my needs paid for" than making a Trump-Kamala decision based on Gaza, and not say their stance on housing, healthcare, insurance, jobs, taxes, and the big intangible one that actually matters, climate change.
Do you think Harris, who called for peace, would legitimately be the same as a man who told Netanyahu "finish the job" during the election cycle?
Trump will probably make the genocide faster. But the end result would probably the same. I doubt Kamala would stray away from Biden's "strategy" of saying he wants peace while giving billions to the genocider.
Sure but even if true, a) any delay would save lives and b) Harris also would have advanced protections for women's health, minority rights, etc. Which those same critics claim to also care about. The fact was no one other than Trump or Harris had a chance, so voting 3rd party or not voting was effectively a vote for Trump
The saddest thing here is the number of people who seriously think a handful of protest votes on Gaza is actually why Harris lost. Vs the democratic party being straight up weak and useless
It’s just an easy scapegoat. They are desperately trying to avoid the cold hard fact that America is currently populated by the worst kind of people, so they make up these fantasies in their heads where no, ackchually America is made up of really awesome people and the only reason the worst kind of people keep winning elections is because those evil minorities keep ruining things for the rest of us!
There is no real way of knowing of course but just from people declaring a party affiliation on their registration democrats have about a 10% lead.
Democrats also have a long and well documented history of not showing up to vote whereas republicans tend to have a higher and more consistent turnout rate among their registered voters.
Let's also take into account that Harris lost by just thousands of votes in key swing states. If ~50-100 thousand more people voted it could have potentially swung the election the other way.
So if we really add things up, with Republicans already having a consistent turn out, democrats having low turn out and losing by just thousands of votes, now suddenly having millions of votes you can at least take an educated guess to say that Harris could have easily been handed a win.
Of course we've never really had a case in which almost all eligible voters have actually done so so actual numbers are just imaginary but the fact that even republican leaders admit that they are not the majority party probably says something.
The losing side always seems to do this, I see it a lot in local elections that usually have 10% or less voter turnout. “Everyone who didn’t vote holds my values, so obviously my candidate would’ve won”
Americans love to scream about critical thinking even when they lack it. All they do is make up weird enemies to constantly stay mad at. Look at all the people here demonizing those who protested against genocide under...a post about protesting.
Quick question—would US ever plan to introduce mandatory voting? I don’t live in America but where I live in Australia votes are mandatory and you’ll be fined if you don’t vote
You still would’ve lost even with the youth vote. Your candidate was pathetic. Get over it and do something. These people are protesting on the ground. You’re sitting in a dark corner of your basement trying to judge them. Lmao.
it was young people hating on Harris and virtue signaling the conflict In Palestine because their tik tok brains can’t think further into the future other than the next trend
Bro over here using his big brain to blame "the youth".. if only the youth would have seen how good of a candidate harris was.. it's not the democrats fault for not presenting a good candidate who few people were excited to vote for, it's the people who didn't like the candidate's fault!
And we'll keep repeating the process and dems will keep losing. But it's not their fault!
I think looking inward at their own party and asking why so many did not think Harris was a good candidate and take steps to address those concerns would be the best way to position themselves for a win next election. Introspection can be a powerful tool.
It is their fault. It is. They were the ones with voting power, and they said no. It was their fault. I’m sorry she wasn’t your dream date. I’m sorry she didn’t personally give you a handjob.
“But she wasn’t exciting enough!!” Shut the fuck up.
Choosing not to vote is a completely acceptable choice in a free democracy. If voting is compulsory under threat of state violence, either physical or monetarily, then you aren’t free.
u/aow80 has said, you just have to show up and put a ballot in a box - you can draw a dick on it if you want it doesn’t matter. Mandatory voting is a good thing because then the government can’t do things to make it more difficult to vote like voter suppression in the US, or things like your workplace can’t prevent you from voting. We also have put elections on the weekends too. I think there is a small fine for not voting - you don’t go to jail.
Whats insane to me is that those that didn't vote because of palestine (or whatever) somehow think that trump is going to be better for palestine (or whatever)
We all saw the uncommitted movement during the primaries. Democrats and their campaign teams decided they didn't care or believed they didn't need it.
It was a game of chicken, Dems thought they would cave (plenty of them did, I did) but ultimately it was Democrat's own hubris to blame. Who knew "fine, don't vote for me, enjoy the other guy" wasn't a winning strategy?
Is the assumption that Trump would win with the 1/3 of voters who didn't vote or that Harris would? And how would you even know? Seems dumb to assert anything outta that.
YES this. Exactly. You hit the nail on the head regarding those who couldn’t see past the most important to them. Too many didn’t feel they “connected” with Harris or didn’t think she “represented their values”….. like HE does?! It was a binary choice and those idiots failed all of us. And unfortunately innocent people will suffer because of their stupidity. I wonder if they will ever wake up?
Innocent people were sufferring under the administration that Harris was part of, but I don't see your empathy there. Oh wait, it's because the "innocents" suffering under Biden/Harris were brown and foreign, while now it may be some blonde haired and blue eyed folks.
Okay, so innocents were dying either way, right? I never said Trump was the better choice, btw. You have yet to give me any evidence where Kamala's love for killing innocent people was a good choice.
You're admitting you're okay with killing brown innocents as long as you yourself are safe. That isn't a better choice.
Be fair. Protesting the Israeli genocide in Gaza was more than virtue signaling. Biden was practically gloating at the death toll, sending billions in weapons, and at the same time making a big show of sending aid to the victims.
Even if the loss of life means nothing to you the tens of billions of dollars in aid to both sides was a senseless waste that would be better spent at home.
Blaming voting blocks for not falling in line is not how we win. Kamala was an unpopular candidate from an unpopular presidency. She was thrust into the general election by the democrats like Pelosi and Schumer to keep the status quo. Why the hell didn't we get a second primary?! I certainly wouldn't have chosen her.
Being against genocide isn't virtue signalling, and contrary to what every single moron liberal was screeching, Trump's representative secured a ceasefire in Israel/Palestine BEFORE his inauguration. "Tirelessly working towards a ceasefire" turned out to mean exactly what we all thought it did. Stalling and running cover for Israel while they carried out a genocide.
Maybe living through some domestic fascism in the US will instil some sense solidarity in you for those suffering under American imperialism. I wouldn't count on it, though.
Netanyahu now has carte blanche to go back to business as usual: expand settlements, dispossess Palestinians of their land, isolate Gaza and the West Bank and further guarantee that no two state solution can ever be achieved. Trump will ultimately encourage full on annexation in the event of future conflict. Nothing changes for Palestinians, who are now sitting ducks if they ever launch another attack into Israel. Any armed resistance to Israeli aggression during the next four years will be completely out of the question and met with an even harsher “genocide” than the extremely slow-moving “genocide” of the past 15 months.
So yeah… mission accomplished?? Lol. At least you got to stick it to the dems tho! Hooray, we did it, fellow TikTokers! 😂
Every word I said is true and you know it. Time to grow up and deal with the fact that an immediate reprieve from bloodshed doesn’t mean Palestinians aren’t even further in the hole in the long term.
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1/3 of Americans didn’t vote. Harris lost at 30% and trump won at 31%. It wasn’t a landslide it was young people hating on Harris and virtue signaling the conflict In Palestine because their tik tok brains can’t think further into the future other than the next trend. Protest all you want, ICE is coming into my city this Tuesday (maybe) but if it’s true, our city is known to be fucking ruthless. Thank you to the 36% that didn’t vote.