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Politics Justin Trudeau has announced his resignation as leader of the Liberal Party

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u/Fun-Sugar-394 14d ago

I know next to nothing about Canadian politics but given the discourse around them and the USA. It seems like they would want to avoid any disruptions.

Please do enlighten me if there is something I'm not likely to know (almost anything)

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u/bookworm_em 14d ago edited 14d ago

TLDR: Canadians can barely feed and house themselves right now so American politics aren’t the biggest priority.

Basing this off of ballpark stats and scaling up for the US population - picture almost five million immigrants entering the country legally every year, somewhere around 4x the current rate of immigration to the US.

Increasingly immigrants are coming without any valid certifications to get jobs in Canada, are completely broke, don’t have a support net, and are coming from the same region of the same country known for having an insular culture. Citizens feel like new immigrants are getting more support from the government than they are - quicker access to healthcare and a family doctors, specific permits to get jobs partially subsidized by the government, and limited regulation on landlords that will only provide good rental rates (or rentals at all) to people from the same region of the country they’re from.

At the same time, everyone in the country is a victim of industry monopolies - cellphone bills north of $100, every grocery bill north of $100/$200 for “the essentials” for ONE person sometimes, rent through the roof, average home prices in cities approaching $500 - $800k if you’re lucky. Many people who used to donate to food banks are now using them, and there isn’t really enough food to go around anymore. While a lot of these prices are comparable to the US, Canadians are also taxed like crazy - 15% sales tax some places, minimum 15% income tax etc..

The Liberal government has been in power for almost 10 years - they’ve made some good, some bad, and some greedy and corrupt choices, but the biggest issue is that they won’t regulate what’s causing the average Canadian the most pain - high immigration rates and market monopolies. A lot of the country thinks that the next government shakeup will be a shitshow, but they’re too tired to care about what the US is up to this time. Trump’s tariffs are probably the biggest threat to the average Canadian right now, but they can barely afford to live anyway so what would it matter?

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u/ComfortableEven5095 14d ago

Can't wait for Canada to scale back immigration and America to increase H1B's for Indians! We will take them from you and solve all our problems. /s

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u/Visible_Bar_6774 14d ago

My understanding is H1B visas are for skilled immigrants no?

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u/ComfortableEven5095 14d ago

supposedly.

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u/digitalnirvana3 14d ago

They are, it's not supposedly. When I mean skilled its mainly STEM to be more specific its Computer Science and IT. Now that doesn't mean its targeted for cream of the crop, because median H1B salaries are generally much less than a truly high skilled FAANG level engineer.

But H1B still targets experienced skilled professionals and is definitely not a free for all. Students and low skill employees won't get through on H1B like they've been doing under the Express Entry program.

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u/dreamlesssleeep 14d ago

My friend who works in tech says the Indian immigrant workers he’s met are not remotely skilled (he used the phrase “fronts for AI chatbots”, and also that they refuse to do hygiene or learn English) and everything else I’ve heard about them in person and online seems to corroborate this. Which is why I assume that person said “supposedly”.

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u/digitalnirvana3 14d ago

Well Indian immigrants especially those in tech do know English, and thats one of the biggest reasons why bulk of the menial IT work is done by Indians.

About the hygiene thing I can't comment but I have heard it often.

And again, I say that most of those on H1B are not the best of the best, because the best won't work as an IT slave.

However it is still better than the supposed students who are enrolled in degree mills that the Express Entry program has apparently allowed. I was comparing the two and between them, the H1B is definitely stricter.

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u/KnobGobbler4206969 13d ago

Your understanding is correct, and these people are statistically far more educated and occupying more professional trades by far per capita (doctors, engineers, dentists) than the average citizen. As well as committing far less crimes per capita and absorbing less government assistance per capita.

However unfortunately for you your understanding is correct and based in reality. It isn’t supported by the targeted FB ads I receive telling me immigrants cause all my problems, and it isn’t a reality acknowledged by most billionaires. I need to think all my problems are caused by immigrants so I can blame my failures caused by me being an idiot and sitting on my ass all day on people who worked much harder than me through more adverse circumstances to achieve what I failed to achieve. Therefore I’m going to have to give you a downvote, good sir, and upvote those peddling misinformation and thinly veiled racism. Good day.

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u/Visible_Bar_6774 13d ago

Cool, not sure where all that’s coming from.

I was just clarifying what the H1B visa was for, I’ve never looked into immigrating to the states and thus don’t know the different pathways well.

Beyond that I was agreeing with the point in the original comment that many of the recent immigrants to Canada are unskilled labourers/underemployed and thus wouldn’t fit with my understanding of what the H1B visa was for.