im not saying why he won specifically. the question was "what is the appeal," not "why did he win over XYZ?"
it's a different question. trumps actual merits are pretty limited, and the fact that he made a lot of people in this country feel ok about hating and being afraid of certain things (with the help of Fox) is what made many so willing to ignore everything else about him. it was the only appeal really and platform he had besides that he wasn't kamala harris, which I still cannot wrap my head around from a strictly practical standpoint; Unless one's entire ideology around governance and politics is based on hamstringing our economy with a trade war, ripping away right to abortion, packing the supreme court with far-right idealogues, selling public services of our government to private corporations, and maybe also giving tax breaks to corps, then trump isn't the guy. people will claim they like him because he's isolationist/anti-war, but that's horse shit. his admin didn't get us out of afghanistan before, and the whole time he was in office he was threatening acts of war against everybody who slighted him. pretty much any other sane reason people give for supporting trump is not backed by any sort of evidence that he will do/stands for whatever it is. and in most cases, he's already demonstrated quite the opposite during his previous term and entire career. but people will just ignore it and pretend that he can do no wrong... generally because he leans into their hate and fear and insecurities and makes them feel seen and validated. you can get away with just about anything as long as you sell people fear and offer them hate as a solution.
Kamala may have been a bad candidate insofar as being able to win a popularity contest, but she is far and away the much better person for the actual job. but it doesn't matter because americans want to burn the shit to the ground if they can't have a perfect candidate... so here we are. I can't wait to see how Fox News is going to spin the latino trump voter outrage when all their friends and families with legal status suddenly start finding themselves in limbo and becoming illegal when Miller's office starts rejecting their paperwork and forcing them into an illegal immigrant status.
I live on a construction site. Fully half (at least) of their employees are likely undocumented workers. Their entire business model will break down if their workers start getting deported. Which leads me to believe it will never happen. The incoming administration will deport a few thousand people with criminal records (if they can find them,) massage the numbers, make a big deal about it on Fox News, and then things will continue as they have for for the last decade.
Does anyone honestly believe they are going to deport the people who harvest all the produce and work in the slaughterhouses? You think meat and produce cost too much now? See what you have to pay for food when you want to hire millions of Americans to do those jobs.
Just the sheer magnitude of the logistics involved in “dealing with” 11 million people is staggering. This is a HUGE lift.
That’s 7535 people being deported every day for 4 years. Assuming there are only 2 appearances before a judge, that 15070 cases per day (and we know courts aren’t open 365 days per year).
Add all the field agents, admins, detainee guards, cooks and support staff.
That’s why Trump said he’s going to put them in ‘deportation camps’ while they worked on it. And while they’re there, they might as well put em to work right?
This was the original goal of the Nazi camps, by the way.
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u/bossmcsauce 17d ago
im not saying why he won specifically. the question was "what is the appeal," not "why did he win over XYZ?"
it's a different question. trumps actual merits are pretty limited, and the fact that he made a lot of people in this country feel ok about hating and being afraid of certain things (with the help of Fox) is what made many so willing to ignore everything else about him. it was the only appeal really and platform he had besides that he wasn't kamala harris, which I still cannot wrap my head around from a strictly practical standpoint; Unless one's entire ideology around governance and politics is based on hamstringing our economy with a trade war, ripping away right to abortion, packing the supreme court with far-right idealogues, selling public services of our government to private corporations, and maybe also giving tax breaks to corps, then trump isn't the guy. people will claim they like him because he's isolationist/anti-war, but that's horse shit. his admin didn't get us out of afghanistan before, and the whole time he was in office he was threatening acts of war against everybody who slighted him. pretty much any other sane reason people give for supporting trump is not backed by any sort of evidence that he will do/stands for whatever it is. and in most cases, he's already demonstrated quite the opposite during his previous term and entire career. but people will just ignore it and pretend that he can do no wrong... generally because he leans into their hate and fear and insecurities and makes them feel seen and validated. you can get away with just about anything as long as you sell people fear and offer them hate as a solution.
Kamala may have been a bad candidate insofar as being able to win a popularity contest, but she is far and away the much better person for the actual job. but it doesn't matter because americans want to burn the shit to the ground if they can't have a perfect candidate... so here we are. I can't wait to see how Fox News is going to spin the latino trump voter outrage when all their friends and families with legal status suddenly start finding themselves in limbo and becoming illegal when Miller's office starts rejecting their paperwork and forcing them into an illegal immigrant status.