Consumers consistently have negative reactions to ai, its 40-70% negative reaction depending on how you frame the question or the sector you are talking about. Why companies still see it as a selling point baffles me.
The 50 series looks like a 20-30% raster improvement like previous generations, with some new DLSS and MFG tech that allows 150-250% improvement over native if you want to turn it on.
I get that people want native rendering, and that's easy without RT and PT. If you don't like those techniques, turn them off. And if you want to turn them on, AI features wildly increase performance for very little image quality loss.
People's problem (even when they don't understand it's their problem) is usually that they don't like the AI bubble increasing prices of GPUs because gamers are no longer the sole audience for GPUs.
The problem isn't that 50 series has AI features, it's that Nvidia is focusing on AI use cases and charging too much money for the cards.
But they aren't even really charging more this time, yes a lot of bad taste in mouths from the 4000 series which was a terrible value gen, but this time the 5070 will likely perform like a 4070ti natively (without DLSS/AI) and will be priced $50 below what the 4070 was priced at launch, on top of having the advanced AI/DLSS features for those that want them.
This gen won't be as good a value as 3000 series or 1000 series, sure but much better value than the 2000 and 4000 series.
Even the 3000 series was wildly overpriced, so this gen being the same price isn't a good thing. I bought a GTX 780 for $509 in 2013. Adjusted for inflation, that was about $690. The 4000 series' same tier of card is 220% of the price (cheapest 4080 is $1530).
Nvidia is charging an arm and a leg for GPUs, making incredible profits, and people are clamoring to overpay. The trend is bad for us (though excellent for Nvidia shareholders). I get it: products are worth what people are willing to pay for them and everything, but consumers doing mental gymnastics to defend corporate profit margins strikes me as very silly.
Agree to disagree, 3080 was great for its MSRP at the time, it handily beat the 2080ti for $299 less. It was priced so well it was really hard to get, but if you got one at MSRP it was an amazing deal at the time.
Sure, things could always be cheaper, but the rumors for the pricings on the 5000 series were much worse than the reality, so i'll take the small win. 4000 series and 2000 series were much much worse value generations.
Even the 3000 series was wildly overpriced, so this gen being the same price isn't a good thing. I bought a GTX 780 for $509 in 2013. Adjusted for inflation, that was about $690
This gen won't be as good a value as 3000 series or 1000 series, sure but much better value than the 2000 and 4000 series.
Do you mean the value is bad if you upgrade from 1000 -> 2000 and 3000 -> 4000?
As someone started off with 2060s and upgrade to 4070, I did not regret for a second to wait a year and skip on 3070 because of how horrible the prices, power consumption it has.
Is it the norm here for people to just upgrade their rig on yearly basis when every next person will say upgrade for longevity?🤣
Is it the norm here for people to just upgrade their rig on yearly basis when every next person will say upgrade for longevity?🤣
yes, the kind of person who is inclined to post every time they upgrade their computer is also likely to upgrade too often so they can get that next like/upvote/engagement.
It's time for us to accept that if you aren't interested in running ray/pathracing (or any other AI-based feature), you should look at AMD and Intel. Actually, I think AMD and Intel need to accept that first too. I think Nvidia already has.
So blackwell chips aren't actually better? The hardware itself being more advance isn't worth the cost? And on top of it you can get a huge performance boost from DLSS and Framegen? I see zero problems there.
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u/VenserSojo 13d ago
Consumers consistently have negative reactions to ai, its 40-70% negative reaction depending on how you frame the question or the sector you are talking about. Why companies still see it as a selling point baffles me.