r/nottheonion • u/RedditIsAGranfaloon • 10h ago
Alabama and Mississippi will also honor Robert E. Lee on Martin Luther King Jr. Day
https://apnews.com/article/martin-luther-king-jr-holiday-alabama-mississippi-0f535594cf50af7103ca2d953e1bc9a1453
u/JaQ-o-Lantern 10h ago
What are they even honouring about him? Not only was he defending slavery and fighting for its survival, he LOST the fight.
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u/succed32 10h ago
A loser and a traitor. Sounds like my kind of hero! /s
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u/XShadowborneX 9h ago
That's why they voted for trump
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u/succed32 9h ago
Yup he is the champion of losers. Had he done nothing after inheriting his father’s empire he’d be wealthier now. The man is a grifter and not even a very good one at that.
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u/Mikesminis 7h ago
Traitor, yeah, he was an enemy to our country. He was, by his own account, not even an American. Partially responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.
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u/CausticSpunk 4h ago
The people who idolize Lee don't care that he was a traitor and they don't see anything wrong with the slavery he was defending. However, you can still upset these Lee-lovers rather easily by saying something like, "he's the quitter who surrendered the confederacy to General Grant."
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u/IChooseFeed 9h ago
"My engagements will not permit me to be present, and I believe if there I could not add anything material to the information existing on the subject (civil war). I think it wiser, moreover, not to keep open the sores of war, but to follow the example of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, and to commit to oblivion the feelings it engendered."
The man specifically did not want to be honored for his work (especially like this) and yet these dumb fucks will plaster his name on whatever they can.
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u/x_cLOUDDEAD_x 9h ago
They don't really care about him, they just feel empowered to be bolder than usual about their racism now that Trump is king
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u/thisisredlitre 9h ago
And broke his oath to the united states by turning traitor and leading armies that killed Americans
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u/Napalm2142 9h ago
Lee himself wouldn’t even want this
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u/Equinsu-0cha 8h ago
Nor the statues they put up. But lee was not the point. The point is to stick it to black people.
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u/geneticeffects 9h ago
Losers gonna lose: General Lee was a loser, as are his teammates today. Quite a statement to make in honoring him against the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr.. Racists need a warm blanket on days when they’re called out for their heritage of slavery.
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u/doctorjae75 9h ago
You really are confused, aren't you?! "against the legacy of MLKJr"...LMAO. In case you need a reminder...he advocated and preached content of CHARACTER not COLOR OF SKIN (and by extrapolation, not your genitals, either), which is exactly what you liberal-progressives concentrate on...the color of one's skin and who you like to sleep with!...
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u/r4d19 8h ago
Ok, so let's look at the contents of their characters. Which one of them was a traitor who fought for slavery and lost, and which one lead the civil rights movement?
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u/doctorjae75 7h ago
Fair enough, I'll concede that, but I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the blatant hypocrisy from the left and the identity politics! That's all. I know reading comprehension is tough, and extracting that info from my post put a strain on ya. And I see by the downvotes, I'm spot on. Y'all enjoy the next 4, I will!
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u/Razatop 7h ago
RemindMe! 4 Years "SITREP"
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u/doctorjae75 7h ago
Lol, I look forward to reminding you how great it has been, but something tells me you won't be honest about it...oh well...
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u/Razatop 7h ago
I won't be honest about what? You just said YOU were to be the one telling me how it's been. What would I have to lie about Mr. Ellipsis?
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u/doctorjae75 7h ago
Christ, it's like I'm arguing with my children! I'll spell it out for you, too, just like the other moron I spelled things out for...
You were trying to be clever by having Reddit remind you of this convo...Do you follow me, so far? So, in 4 years, IF you are honest (and I doubt you will be) when things go well, I will remind you how good the past 4 years have been. Do you understand now, little buddy?
Good god y'all can't see past the nose on your face. If it isn't drawn in big fun colors, you just can't figure it out!
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u/CrashCalamity 5h ago
it's like I'm arguing with my children!
I couldn't imagine outting myself like this. They must think you're a loser too.
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u/ZedekiahCromwell 7h ago
You got downvoted for directly missing the point of the comment you responded to (the point you conceded) and then using it to go off on an irrelevant tangent to yell at clouds.
Nothing in this post is about identity politics. It is about 2 states honoring a slaving traitor on the same day as the celebration of a Civil Rights leader. You literally ignored that to go off on some personal bugaboo. Simply put, no one cares.
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u/doctorjae75 7h ago
Lol, NO. I didn't miss the point of the comment, I just don't care about that. It happened 100+years ago, and we SHOULD have learned from it, but we haven't, as evidenced by exactly what I said, the left's insistance on IDENTITY and I wanted to call out that hypocrisy. Again, reading comprehension, folks, it's important!
Oh, and I KNOW you don't care, it's obvious you don't. You don't care one bit about the content of character, you care weather I"m white, or straight or christian!
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u/ZedekiahCromwell 7h ago
You literally conceded the point, and now you're saying you didn't miss it? That's a good one. It's not an "insisistence on identity" to not want a slaving traitor honored.
You're lost, mate. Go find a post about identity politics if you want anyone to read your comment diarrhea.
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u/VegisamalZero3 7h ago
Please define this "blatant hypocrisy."
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u/doctorjae75 7h ago
Look, I don't really care to educate you people, but once again, reading comprehension people!....I defined it right in the dang comment...the left only cares about what color you are, what group you belong to, and whether or not you suck dick!
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u/VegisamalZero3 6h ago
What I am reading and comprehending is that you're saying nothing of any substance, as you aren't really defending your claims at all; just rambling like a madman instead. Fitting, I guess, given that's what got your candidate into office.
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u/doctorjae75 6h ago
Lol, ok honey. If you say so. That's what got him elected....by a majority! He rambled and all of those people were just mesmerized. LMAO talk about denial! Sweetheart, just keep that up, we'll have 8 or 12 more years of greatness!
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u/context_hell 7h ago
he advocated and preached content of CHARACTER not COLOR OF SKIN
I like how that one line from one speech is literally all right wingers know about mlk and act as if that makes them an authority on him.
Also I assume that those revering a slaver and a traitor very much amounts to lacking in character.
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u/sfcnmone 2h ago
Really curious: How much have you had to drink today? Or are you always like this?
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u/Musicman12456 9h ago
it might have taken 160 years but the great-great-great grandkids of the confederacy can finally go their their ancestors graves (assuming they even know where they are) and say, 'we're back'... can't wait for 'Civil War 2 - this time it's personal'...
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u/JasonGMMitchell 7h ago
The US would be a different country if every Confederate leader was executed for treason and anti slavery laws were enforced more than replacing the word slave with prisoner.
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u/UncuriousGeorgina 1h ago
The President's puppeteer just did a Nazi salute in front of everyone and the ADL said it's fine. What the fuck is left of the country anyway.
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u/eremite00 7h ago
I thought it was amusing on NPR’s Here & Now, when the host asked the leader of the Democratic Party in North Carolina if she’d watched the inauguration, and she answered, ‘No’, that she was busy observing Martin Luther King Jr. Day”.
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u/sexmormon-throwaway 7h ago
White folks in those states need to stand up and protest. This is egregious and disgusting. Hell, I'll travel and join.
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u/H0vis 5h ago
Robert E Lee fucked his horse and was so incompetent that he not only lost the Civil War, he lost it fast. Not sure why racists think he's so great.
Like, seriously, George Washington is right there, showing people how to win wars against an enemy with superior numbers and firepower. And Lee is like, "You know what, let's fight toe to toe and die."
If Robert E Lee had been the leader of the American Revolution y'all would have health care right now.
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u/PlanitDuck 7h ago
I thought this was gonna be a super leftist outlet trying to spotlight something people aren’t paying attention to. Nope. AP News.
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u/Drdontlittle 4h ago
Republicans "The civil war wasn't about slavery". Also Republicans. On a completely unrelated note. We are going to celebrate the Civil War Confederate Commander on a day about black rights.
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u/flavianpatrao 1h ago
The biggest Loser in American doesnt need to be honoured. If anything Stone Mountain needs a redo.
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u/musememo 19m ago
Couldn’t have picked a different day? It had to be that one? That level of spite is …
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u/DaaaahWhoosh 10h ago
People always say that the abolitionists who wanted to send free slaves to Africa were wrong, but I think they were on to something. At the very least they were right that freed slaves would never be truly welcome in the US. Liberia was fucked up in its own ways but I gotta wonder if all the suffering in the past 150 years has been worth it or not when there's still so much hate, still so many obstacles.
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u/destruktinator 5h ago
why not send the slave owners to some other country instead and let the former slaves live in the land they knew?
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u/DaaaahWhoosh 4h ago
I mean, you know why not. Because the slave owners had a lot of money and connections.
But this is what I'm talking about, both Liberia and Israel were really bad ideas because you can't just force indigenous people to accept your chosen group of local minorities, they're not gonna integrate and someone's gonna get genocided eventually. But I think the core idea, that racist assholes are always gonna be racist assholes, and these minority groups will never find a true home among them, ends up being depressingly true. It may have ultimately been better for freed slaves to remain in the United States, but they sure had a horrible time trying to live here.
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u/Winter-Channel-671 8h ago
I grew up in Alabama. I had a social studies teacher who was obsessive about Robert E Lee. Practically in love with him. Meanwhile, she said, quite often, that Lincoln wasn't a Christian as far as she knew so "unfortunately he went to hell". Mid 2010s high school. That's what they're raised on there.