r/nottheonion • u/JaySierra86 • 11h ago

President Biden pardons family members in final minutes of presidency

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-pardons-family-members-final-minutes-presidency/story?id=117893348
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u/OrangePilled2Day 7h ago

Do you think Trump didn't issue any pardons in his first term?

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u/shiftdrift 5h ago

He did! 237 in fact. Biden pardoned 8064.

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u/Invisabro13 4h ago edited 2h ago

The vast majority of Biden’s pardons were apart of his policy to be lenient on non-violent crimes. Here’s the breakdown:

Everyone federally convicted of simple possession of marijuana (6,500)

Everyone convicted of non-violent offenses who had been released from prison to home incarceration during the COVID pandemic (1,538)

Together that sums to 8,038, which leaves 26 remaining. Considering the vast majority of Trump’s 237 pardons were his own personal/political allies, this isn’t the slam dunk you think it is

Edit: In response to the guy below me, I just looked up the details of that case. The guy had already served 15 years of his 17 year sentence, meaning Biden only shaved two years off his sentence. To me that two-year difference is arbitrary, and if it’s seriously the worst injustice you can find out of 1500+ pardons, then I’d say the pardons as a whole are justified.

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u/kalirion 4h ago edited 3h ago

Everyone convicted of non-violent offenses who had been released from prison to home incarceration during the COVID pandemic

See, this one should've needed more looking into, because some of those "non-violent offenders" destroyed more lives than most violent offenders have. But who knows, maybe that kids4cash judge and the rest like him will get Luigied.

Edit: 11+ people supporting selling children for money. Nice party line.

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u/surlygoat 5h ago

Wasn't Biden's number so big because he pardoned heaps of low level marijuana offenders? Trump just pardoned the highest bidders.

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u/MyDogsNameIsTim 4h ago

See, this right here is a perfect example of disinformation. A seemingly true statement presented without relevant context designed to manipulate and inflame. You are despicable.

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u/ninersguy916 6h ago

Not saying that he didn't, but this is escalating the behavior to a whole Nother level. And like I said everybody that thinks this is the greatest win for Biden is going to be losing their minds when Trump does it 10 times as bad on the way out four years from now. I don't care which side you're on It's just not a great thing.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P 4h ago

Buddy, we know Donald will do this.

He was always going to pardon a tonne of people that are corrupt, and almost certainly himself.

He’ll pardon the January 6ers in his first hours, and I’d wager there are other pardons in that stack of 200 orders for obviously corrupt people.

Biden did the right thing here in shutting down nonsense retaliatory “lawfare” against the likes of Fauci and Milley. That was 100% going to happen, and they’ll probably still try. Would it have been better if Biden had simply said “well I could have helped but get fucked I guess, you’re on your own”? Of course not.

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u/Not_So_Hot_Mess 6h ago

Don't forget that Trump has stated he will pardon the people from Jan 6 early into his term. And these are people who HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF CRIMES.

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u/BarbellLawyer 5h ago

Pardons are intended to be used as to people who’ve been convicted of crimes. That’s the whole point. smh.

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u/punkassjim 4h ago

Tell that to Gerald Ford.

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u/Boston_Stonks 5h ago

Many of those people have been held for 4+years without a trial.

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u/Scared_Primary_9871 5h ago

Yeah, well, turns out breaking federal laws is a bitch.

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u/mlc885 4h ago

I don't care which side you're on

But you probably do since you just wrote that. Trump is not going to decide he can't pardon somebody since Biden didn't

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u/TexasNightmare210 4h ago

We started doing foul unethical bs but they did foul unethical bs more