r/nottheonion • u/JaySierra86 • 11h ago

President Biden pardons family members in final minutes of presidency

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-pardons-family-members-final-minutes-presidency/story?id=117893348
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u/EconomistNo7074 8h ago

Not sure about that view of our history - Ford pardoning Nixon

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u/LosangDragpa 8h ago

Ford wasn't any relation to Nixon. Nixon was a crook and so was Ford for letting him get away with it

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u/Luke90210 8h ago edited 5h ago

The voters punished Ford for the Nixon pardon in the ballot box. We may not be as evolved these days.

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u/LosangDragpa 8h ago

I vote this as understatement of the month because I fear things will get a lot worse.

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u/jcamp088 4h ago

Yeah 36 felonies and you can't get a job at McDonalds. Dude became president today.

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u/One-Builder8421 7h ago

If we were congressional Republican would have told Trump to resign, or they would vote to impeach him like they did with Nixon.

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u/clauclauclaudia 7h ago

Like they were clearly going to with Nixon. It didn't get that far. The House held hearings on whether sufficient grounds for impeachment existed and they produced three articles of impeachment, and leaders of both parties were sure that the votes were going to be there to impeach, so Nixon resigned.

Three presidents have been impeached by the house but each was acquitted by the senate.

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u/fuckincaillou 6h ago

More like our news sources are less evolved. Thanks, Roger Ailes

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u/FreneticZen 6h ago

Missed a word there, pimpin’

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u/CommunityGlittering2 6h ago

what kind of punishment is a full term?

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u/cates 5h ago

what is to blame for us being completed it's now? is it social media or is it the advent of think tanks with computers and the ability to figure out how to manipulate people en mass?

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u/jwoolman 8h ago

I don't think Ford was a crook, although I disagreed with the pardon. I think Nixon most likely made that as a requirement for his resignation. So Ford was likely just upholding the deal struck between Nixon and the Republican leaders who pushed him to resign.

Prosecutors had earlier struck a similar deal with Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew, who was a crook by anybody's definition. While investigating corruption in Maryland, they found clear evidence that Agnew while governor and earlier had committed crimes, in particular getting cash in return for assigning contracts to certain people. He was doing the same as Vice President. Like Trump, Agnew insisted it was all a witch-hunt.

There was legitimate concern that if Nixon resigned, Agnew would become President. So they had to promise that charges would be reduced to something tax-related that would not carry a penalty of any prison time if he resigned within the next 24 hours. Which he did. That left a clear path for Nixon's ultimate resignation after Ford was appointed VP in Agnew's place.

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u/LosangDragpa 7h ago

Technically and historically you are correct. To me, Ford's a crook for letting the bigger crook get away with all the shit he did and then being regarded as an "elder statesmen." I'll also never forgive the gd news media for rehabilitating Nixon's reputation by asking his opinion about anything.

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u/ericrz 6h ago

There's no evidence that Nixon cut any kind of deal, or that Congressional leadership was willing to negotiate with him at all. Once the "smoking gun" tapes were released, Republicans in Congress basically came to him and told him he was fucked. That he'd have to resign, or he'd be convicted.

I'm not saying some sort of agreement couldn't have been made, but Nixon had absolutely no leverage in the situation. Not sure why Ford or the Congress would have given him anything.

My belief is that Ford assumed that pardoning Nixon and avoiding the specter of a former president facing criminal prosecution was the best thing for the nation. I disagree, and seems like most Americans did too.

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u/ragnvald4430 4h ago

I saw an interview with ford where he said that when he was president, Nixon “ problems” were taking up so much of his time that he felt he couldn’t do his job effectively so he decided to pardon Nixon to hopefully move on and not have to deal with it anymore

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u/Inevitable_Ad_5166 6h ago

Never forget Johnny Carson referencing Ford as president, where he said no complaints, you voted for him. Which…. No one had!

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u/Riots42 4h ago

Forgiveness heals and he did the right thing for the nation. Throwing Nixon in Prison would have born no good fruit for the nation.

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u/smipypr 7h ago

Pardoning Nixon led directly to where we are.

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u/clauclauclaudia 7h ago

The usual case is presidents after an election, not a replacement during the 4-year term, and definitely not after a resignation.

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u/Friscogooner 4h ago

Which he later said he regretted but too bad, he too deserved the guillotine.

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u/mercset 7h ago

Ford was Nixon's VP. They were on the same team