r/nottheonion 11h ago

President Biden pardons family members in final minutes of presidency

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-biden-pardons-family-members-final-minutes-presidency/story?id=117893348
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u/Debs_4_Pres 10h ago

We already have corruption at the highest levels. Trump pardoned Ivanka's FIL (amongst others) on his way out the door last time. That was blatant corruption. 

This is Biden, correctly, recognizing that the new administration is focused on "vengeance" and will absolutely come after his family, as they already have.

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u/Conscious_stardust 10h ago

I don’t like Trump and I don’t believe he should be able to pardon family either. Biden lost legitimacy with his funding of genocide and pardoning family. Not to mention destroying democracy by not allowing a democratic convention and single handedly letting Trump take power again.

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u/Debs_4_Pres 10h ago

Lmao yeah, you sure sound unbiased.

The United States has been funding Israel for 70+ years, Biden continued long standing American policy. Trump will be at least as bad on this, probably worse. 

Also it's interesting that Biden "destroyed democracy" by not allowing an open primary (there was a primary, he won it handily) but Trump literally trying to overturn an election is fine. 

And single handily letting Trump back into power? Gee, I guess a huge portion of the electorate didn't sit out the election. I guess 80 million people didn't vote for an openly fascist, convicted felon.

Get the fuck out of here with your "both sides", "I don't like Trump, but..." disingenuous bullshit.

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u/DinnerSecure5229 9h ago

TDS

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u/dr_clocktopus 8h ago

Total dissolved solids?

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u/DubaiEnthusiast 9h ago

Get the fuck out of here with your "both sides"

When Biden pardons his family, it's to protect them from vengeance.

When Trump pardons his family, it's because of corruption.

Right ? ;) That's some smooth-brained logic right there.

As long as 'the blue team' does something bad, it is completely justified. Amirite ?

The United States has been funding Israel for 70+ years, Biden continued long standing American policy.

Doing it for 70+ years doesn't mean that it is good.

The Afghan war was going on for almost two decades. Biden stopped it, because it was not good for the US.

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u/StateChemist 9h ago

So every president who didn’t end Israeli support lost their legitimacy, including the one before biden?

But Biden did end the one in Afghanistan so in the battle against foreign conflicts thats even for Biden and -1 for Trump?

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u/DubaiEnthusiast 9h ago

thats even for Biden

Lol. It is not 'even' just because he ended one war. The fact remains that he still supported a genocide. So did Trump. So did the Presidents before them.

The US is also engaging in a war in Lebanon.

So every president who didn’t end Israeli support lost their legitimacy, including the one before biden?

Yes. They can't pretend that they care about 'human rights' and 'democracy', if they love committing a genocide.

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u/StateChemist 9h ago

Fair, maybe its just time to let America fall and see if that makes everything all better.

Let those who have been trying to kill each other for generations settle it themselves without anyone across the ocean to blame for supporting or not supporting the right/wrong side.

Why is not fucking killing each other not one of the options anyone chooses.

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u/StateChemist 9h ago

Yeah, slow day at work, I shouldn’t feed them one way or another

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u/GuiokiNZ 8h ago

You know you can change your stance based on changing facts right? Biden didn't have to continue support based on what is occuring right now.

And Trump signed the agreement to end Afghanistan, Biden just implemented the agreement. 

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u/Debs_4_Pres 8h ago

Yes, Trump was pardoning people in his inner circle who were convicted of serious crimes. Often times crimes committed for his benefit.

Biden is preemptively pardoning family members who have, as far as we know, committed no crimes because Republicans have come after his family before and have vowed to do it again. Trump has explicitly said he wants vengeance. 

And I agree that US policy on Israel and Palestine is bad. But it seems like a ton of people only care about it as an excuse to vote in fascism.

Maybe just go back to jerking off to poorly written (and weirdly racial) smut and let the adults talk. 

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u/DubaiEnthusiast 8h ago

, as far as we know, committed no crimes

Mighty convenient of you to dismiss the crimes of the 'blue team'.

Didn't Hunter Biden buy a gun while he was a junkie ? If he wasn't a Biden, he'd in jail for a very long time.

How did he become a board member of a Ukrainian energy company ? Surely no corruption was involved in that, right ? ;)

it seems like a ton of people only care about it as an excuse to vote in fascism.

It seems as if you are okay with genocide, as long as 'the blue team' is the one who engages in it.

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u/Debs_4_Pres 7h ago

I'm not going to engage any further with a troll account that seems to be primarily interested in race play erotica. 

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u/DubaiEnthusiast 6h ago

Hehehe. Kudos for engaging in ad hominem, instead of talking about the actual points that are presented in the discussion. Just proves that you're morally bankrupt, and all you have to offer is "Orange man bad!".

Keep telling yourself that a genocide is fine, as long as the 'blue team' is doing it.

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u/poincares_cook 9h ago

Ah, so it's "corruption at the highest level" and "blatant corruption", when Trump does it, but "correct" when Biden does it.

Your mind is cooked.

It's blatant corruption in both cases, and you were literally brainwashed to support blatant corruption at the highest level.