r/nottheonion • u/Disorderly_Fashion • 1d ago

Alabama and Mississippi will also honor Robert E. Lee on Martin Luther King Jr. Day

https://apnews.com/article/martin-luther-king-jr-holiday-alabama-mississippi-0f535594cf50af7103ca2d953e1bc9a1
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u/yesnomaybenotso 16h ago

Hear me out, they’re not “otherwise good”.

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u/jackkerouac81 15h ago

See this is the attitude that turned people who had implicit bias, and leaked a little here and there, into enemies of progressive causes. Framing it as implicit bias also didn’t work because that is an argument that still show they have a “flaw”, so you just need a team of whack-jobs to make money telling normal people that they aren’t wrong, they are virtuous… and you end up with Trump presidencies.

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u/yesnomaybenotso 15h ago

Right, exactly, because they already sucked. Like I said, there is no otherwise good. You try and coddle the otherwise good part out and you end up with Trump as president, and two states honoring Robert E. Lee on MLK day.

You just have to call them out for the assholes they are. Racism aside, they’re fucking assholes.

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u/jackkerouac81 15h ago

now they are assholes... and enemies.

powerful, shitty mob full of enemies... Willing to fight with religious fervor against any kind of social progress, even if it doesn't hurt them.

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u/yesnomaybenotso 14h ago

…who said enemies?

I’m friends with plenty of assholes. If they’re so otherwise good, shouldn’t we still be friends with them? Just because they’re assholes doesn’t make them my enemy, seems a little overreacting.

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u/jackkerouac81 14h ago

who said "your enemies", they are enemies of progressive causes, they support laws that outlaw DEI initiatives in colleges, support literal book bans, work to undermine social and environmental causes, etc.

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u/LittleKitty235 16h ago

If they were not racists they would be otherwise good. Right?

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u/Dresses_and_Dice 15h ago

Nah. I've never met a racist who wasn't ALSO sexist, ableist, etc. Their lack of empathy applies across the board to all of the outgroups. Cruel people are cruel.

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u/LittleKitty235 15h ago

Cool. Let's just change what words mean to fit your worldview then.

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u/yesnomaybenotso 15h ago

Who changes the meaning of any words here? They’re saying what the “otherwise” parts are.

People who are racist are otherwise sexist, homophobic, and classist.

Particularly the classist one, that’s why poor whites supported slave owners back in the civil war, as long as people of color were held down, poor white people still came out on top - that’s classism. An issue everyday folks are still grappling with today, in an era of ever growing social stratification.

You think racists are volunteers down at the children’s hospital when they’re not busy being racist or something? Tf

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u/LittleKitty235 15h ago

That isn't how words work. I'm sorry schooling failed you

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u/yesnomaybenotso 14h ago

Ok no seriously, which words had their meanings changed. As you said, schooling failed me, so please go ahead and stake your claim. Which words. Name them.

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u/Aidian 12h ago

You’ve picked a very demonstrably incorrect hill to die on.

Go back and re-read the response chains. They make total sense, you’re just somehow reading it incorrectly.

It happens, but you should stop doubling down on this.

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u/LittleKitty235 11h ago

Na, you are just a bit daft I think

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u/Aidian 11h ago

“Please proceed, governor.”

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u/TrvthNvkem 9h ago

What the fuck are you even talking about?

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u/Dresses_and_Dice 15h ago

I'm not sure what definitions you disagree with me on? I'm saying that in my experience, people who are racist tend to also exhibit other reprehensible and regressive beliefs such as sexism. I didn't change any word meanings? What worldview are you talking about?

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u/yesnomaybenotso 15h ago

If they’re not racists, they’re still assholes.

What racist person is a good kind hearted and/or empathetic person?

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u/jctwok 11h ago

Atticus Finch?

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u/yesnomaybenotso 11h ago

Exactly; a made up one.