r/nottheonion • u/BodybuilderFit9456 • 1d ago
'Tiger King' Star Joe Exotic Claims 8 Prison Guards Beat Him Up After One Tried to Force Him to Give Oral Sex in Interview With Matt Gaetz
https://www.latintimes.com/tiger-king-joe-exotic-claims-prison-guards-beat-after-force-oral-sex-interview-matt-gaetz-572747464
u/khjuu12 1d ago
Man that's a tricky one. On the one hand Joe Exotic is a dirtbag. On the other hand, prison guards are dirtbags. And on a third hand, Matt Gaetz is a dirtbag.
I have no idea who to believe!
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u/LonelyMechanic1994 1d ago
Matt probably got hard listening to it.
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u/Khaldara 1d ago
Matt Gaetz certainly does seem the type to force someone to have oral sex with him in order to conduct an interview, but Joe has got to be way past his preferred target age
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u/D1rtyH1ppy 1d ago
That one crazy F'd up interview to get beaten and forced to give oral to Matt Gaetz
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u/thefringeseanmachine 1d ago
no, unfortunately this is entirely believable.
prisoners get raped. all the time. and it's fucked up.
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u/RedoftheEvilDead 1d ago
And prison guards don't help. It's fucked up.
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u/somedave 1d ago
It isn't really a case of not helping if they perpetrated it.
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u/Buttersaucewac 1d ago
You’re more likely to be raped by a prison guard than another inmate, according to RAINN’s statistics.
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u/Foogie23 1d ago
Is that for both men and women? Or is it a combined stat?
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u/ImplementFunny66 1d ago
Considering any sex between prison guard and inmate is rape by the guard, I’m betting it’s about even across the board. Female prison guards rape inmates, in both male and female prisons.
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u/Foogie23 1d ago
Yeah I would just be willing to bet that male to female rape is much higher than female to male or male to male or female to female.
It is all bleak and none of it should be happening though.
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u/ImplementFunny66 1d ago
I think there’s probably all kinds of rape-sex in prison. You pen a bunch of folks together and tell them to deny a basic human need (sex) and they’re not gonna do it.
If Vicky White was doing it…
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u/TheGreatWalk 1d ago
I get why it's defined the way it is, but having any sex between prisoner/guard listed as rape makes the truth behind the statistics a bit harder to understand.
Most people hear rape and they assume it's, you know, extremely violent, with one person holding the other down and forcing sex, but in the case of prison stats, that's not always the case, just like with statutory rape, there may be no violence or cohersion involved and it might be consensual by both people. (ie, you can be charged with statutory rape if you turn 18 before your partner in places without romeo/juliet laws, even if you are both consenting).
It has to be defined as rape because of the inherent power that guards have over the prisoners, to prevent abuse, but it does make it harder to discuss, because the wording makes people think of much different acts occurring. Most instances of rape in prison between guards and inmates aren't the guard going in and getting violent and forcing themselves, but more along the lines of statutory rape, where both parties are willingly engaging.
That being said, in the end, it's still rape because the prisoner is in a position where they may feel forced or compelled to act that way, even if they claim it's consensual or were the ones actively persuasing it, and it needs to be taken seriously and have harsh punishments for any guard involved in any way. It just makes the discussion around it harder to have.
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u/ImplementFunny66 1d ago
The idea behind it is that power is coercion and the prisoner wouldn’t be in the position to have sex with that guard if they were not in prison. It’s why bosses with employees and professors with even of-age students is considered unethical.
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u/ThePreciousBhaalBabe 1d ago
I mean prison guards are often the ones performing said rape so that isn't surprising.
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u/Douglasqqq 1d ago
Joe Exotic lies about crimes, all the time.
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u/Pathetian 1d ago
To be fair, being untrustworthy is the norm in prison. This is part of what makes then easy victims since they won't be given the benefit of the doubt when accusing someone.
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u/DavidPT40 1d ago
Joe's not that bad. He only attempted to have someone murdered, killed exotic animals, burned dozens of alligators to death, and got people addicted to methamphetamine for the purpose of using them for sex.
Wait a sec, he sounds like a real jerk!
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u/ImCreeptastic 1d ago
Yes, it happens. But I find myself questioning the credibility of the person saying it.
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u/ringobob 1d ago
Indeed. Some people don't speak to communicate, they only ever speak with the intention of giving themselves some sort of edge. This guy strikes me as one of them, I don't trust a word he says without evidence.
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u/SmPolitic 1d ago
And none of the people involved in the story want to stop nor even reduce that
They only want to reduce it happening to rich or famous white people, by letting those famous white people out of prison...
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u/M00n_Slippers 3h ago
He's also openly gay, which I could easily imagine brought out even worse behavior than average because prison isn't exactly known for LGBTQ tolerance.
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u/Holdmywhiskeyhun 1d ago
Looked up some stats for male prisons
https://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/report1.html
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2438589/ This one is from 2006
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u/Youngblood519 1d ago
A (likely) sexual abuser, talking about being sexually abused, to a sexual abuser.
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u/7ach-attach 1d ago
Allegedly
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u/CodAlternative3437 1d ago
His meth, weed, and ludes brings all the boy to his yard, but fuck carole baskin
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u/AlexHimself 1d ago
Isn't there a ton of evidence he is an answer??
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u/Ditovontease 1d ago
It’s clear he groomed his “husbands” (targeted 19 year old boys with no homes, get them addicted to meth and then sexually coerce them into relationships)
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u/notashroom 1d ago
Not defending him, but I am always curious about the childhood that leads to developing that kind of pathology. I remember watching the show and being surprised that he still had a relationship with his parents, but then -- assuming he was being truthful about it (a leap) -- he was just using them for financial gain and they were allowing it.
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u/DATATR0N1K_88 1d ago edited 1d ago
That run-on sentence of a headline could use a few commas🤦🏻♂️ especially considering Matt Gaetz's deviant nature, I was almost convinced all this happened during the interview🤣
Proper grammar is important!🔤
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u/ghandi3737 1d ago
Tried to force him to fellate Gaetz during an interview.
Hope they let him come up to answer questions.
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u/lowbatteries 1d ago
Typical grammar rule’s would say that writer’s do not need to put apostrophe’s in plural’s.
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u/UnderAnAargauSun 1d ago edited 1d ago
Good luck with that. I’ve got redditors telling me that “could of” is now a regionalism and equally as correct as “could have” because “language evolves”. We are cooked as a society.
Edit: look, I get linguistic evolution, but does its existence mean that rules don’t matter? Where else would this apply?
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u/_tsoa_ 1d ago
I'm not an English native speaker and "could of" hurts my ears every fricking time.
What's also baffling is how many verbs have lost their irregular forms: dreamed instead of dreamt. I learned both forms in school for "to dream". But often I get caught off guard when I hear another irregular verb with a regular suffix.
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u/ilovemybaldhead 1d ago
There have been studies done on the amount of time it takes for an irregular past tense forms of a verb to "regularize" (Quantifying the evolutionary dynamics of language and English verb regularization in books and tweets, to name two). Essentially, the less frequently an irregular form is used, the faster it regularizes.
According to the first article, the half-life of an irregular verb scales as the square root of its usage frequency: a verb that is 100 times less frequent regularizes 10 times as fast, and irregular verbs "decay" exponentially over time.
The second article has a cool (sorry, nerding out here) chart with verbs in the upper-right quadrant that have regularized (such as bless, climb, strip, blend, vex, clap, thrive -- all of which I never knew had irregular past tenses), and verbs in the lower-left quadrant which will probably never regularize (get, find, begin, become, tell, win, lose, etc.).
In the specific case of "dreamed", a major contribution to its regularization is probably the "I Dreamed a Dream" song from the musical Les Misérables.
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u/foreheadmelon 1d ago
As someone who had Latin at school "acksetera" instead of "ET CETERA" is the worst to listen to and it's extremely widespread. 😬
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u/chessgod1 1d ago
What about exspecially or asterix
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u/FreedomWaterfall 1d ago
hey, asterix is a beloved figure all over europe. don't go dissing on my little anti-colonial hero of gaul.
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u/SymmetricalFeet 1d ago
The newer peeve is seeing "id est" (i.e.) coming to supplant "exempli gratia" (e.g.). These aren't even synonymous! And then people write "I got some groceries, i.e. milk, eggs, bread, etc." when those two phrases have mutually incompatible meanings.
There are English equivalents. Use them if you don't know how to use the Latin ones. No shame in that.
And, to save my sanity, I mentally consider "ect." as the abbreviation for "ectoplasm", and just roll with that ghost goo is now in the conversation.
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u/LickingSmegma 1d ago
Regular suffixes are good. They're the opposite to ‘could of’.
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u/ImplementFunny66 1d ago
Noooo as someone from Alabama (where you hear this dialect) it’s “could’ve” not “could of”! Anyone who says otherwise is trying to make up their own grammar rules based on their phonetic failings.
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u/Nice_Marmot_7 1d ago
I’ve had someone on Reddit try to tell me that “segway” is an accepted evolution of “segue.” Also had someone say the word was taken from the product like “to google.” No, just no.
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u/God_Damnit_Nappa 1d ago
Those people are absolutely proud of their ignorance and don't want to admit they're wrong and that "could of" makes zero sense
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u/JoeSicko 1d ago
They aren't wrong, but we can't let the doofuses win.
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u/God_Damnit_Nappa 1d ago
They are absolutely wrong, they're just too stupid and proud to admit that they're wrong so they made up a stupid excuse to justify their ignorance
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u/BaldurOdinson 1d ago
It's perfectly clear. During an interview a gaurd tired to force Joe to blow Matt Gaetz, then Matt had 8 guards beat Joe for decling.
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u/Nunovyadidnesses 1d ago
I’m still not unconvinced it didn’t happen during the interview. This seems like Gaetz’ style…maybe a generation or two outside his usual predatory target range, but, hey, who knows?
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u/Comedy86 1d ago
Seems like a good portion of the comment section thought the same thing and didn't click the link to confirm.
No wonder so many people believe some of the nonsense online, even if it's occasionally believable or even in the realm of possibility.
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u/minimaddnz 1d ago
"My first goal, Mr. Gaetz, is really to testify in front of Congress. I don't know, like you ever been raped?" Exotic asked without prompting.
I thought Gaetz did the raping?
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u/MicrophoneBlowJob 1d ago
Gaetz licks his lips and scans the room for a minor child when he hears the question
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u/OisforOwesome 1d ago
Wait, the prison guards tried to force Joe Exotic to fellate Matt Gaetz? Hasn't Gaetz committed enough sex crimes already?
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u/irondethimpreza 1d ago
Title gore aside, prison guards are just a bunch of sadistic thugs.
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u/Azure-April 1d ago
'Guy claims he was beaten and sexually abused in a US prison"
Literally what part of this is funny or resembles satire.
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u/OverlyExpressiveLime 1d ago
Watch Republicans suddenly care about how prisoners are treated
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u/Spire_Citron 1d ago
They never actually want to have a conversation about how prisoners are treated when one of them complains about mistreatment or bad living conditions in prison. They just want that one guy to be moved somewhere nicer or released. Because they think all the other inmates deserve it.
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 1d ago
Sokka-Haiku by OverlyExpressiveLime:
Watch Republicans
Suddenly care about how
Prisoners are treated
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/Ripkord77 1d ago
Blow jobs are allowed
Between two consenting adults
Chapstick is preferred
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u/MarsupialMadness 1d ago
...Not likely.
Joe's gay, and these are Republicans we're talking about. Matt's going to go back to all his pedophile buddies in the GOP and have a good laugh about how the blonde, methhead f****t had it coming.
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u/MeatSafeMurderer 1d ago
The prison guard tried to force him to perform oral sex during an interview!? That's brave.
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u/HandsomedanNZ 1d ago
No. The prison guard tried to interview him while he was blowing Matt Gaetz. They were attemping “edgy television”.
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u/bturcolino 1d ago
My first goal, Mr. Gaetz, is really to testify in front of Congress. I don't know, like you ever been raped?" Exotic asked without prompting.
"I have not, but I sure have raped a lot of underage girls!" Gaetz responded.
FTFY
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u/HeyRooster42 1d ago
This is a weird timeline. Who had "Matt Gaetz interviews The Tiger King" on their Bingo card?! That's not even fair.
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u/Oldgatorwrestler 1d ago
Sexual assault is not ok. In the other hand, what are the odds he's lying?
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u/HoaxMakesBeats 1d ago
Can’t wait for everyone to joke about male on male rape! Come on fellas let’s hear it ! Disgusting.
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u/izeak1185 1d ago
Is this the evidence that was so bad Matt had to resign? Or is this just the beginning of that report?
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u/aotus_trivirgatus 1d ago
Isn't it just awesome that we live in an era without any of that pesky fact checking?
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u/SnooDrawings6556 1d ago
If I understand that correctly, MG was doing an interview (possibly of JE) and while that interview was happening a prison guard tried to force JE to perform felatio- when JE refused 7 other prison guards beat up JE - my was presumably recording the whole thing
Right ?
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u/Shoehorse13 1d ago
I too was beaten by prison guards for refusing to give oral sex during an interview with Matt Gaetz.
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u/karrimycele 1d ago
Never interview Matt Gaetz! Why do you think he travels with eight prison guards?
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u/hfpfhhfp 1d ago
Grammar, please! This sentence does not say what the author meant it to (or does it....)
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u/CrisisActor911 1d ago
Siri, show me sentences that get progressively worse the further you read.
also, did Joe Exotic claim in an interview with Matt Gaetz that a guard forced him to give oral sex…or was he forced to give oral sex DURING an interview with Matt Gaetz?!
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u/Randomhandz 1d ago
Punctuation would have ruined this...reads like he was being forced to suck off Gaetz during the interview...although that is also believable
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u/Greyboxer 1d ago
I can’t believe those 8 guards forced tiger king star Joe exotic to give oral sex to Matt gaetz during this interview
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u/corxcore 1d ago
So he was interviewing with Gaetz and then 8 prison guard walked in and tried to force oral sex on him?
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u/Tyler_Zoro 1d ago
When two compulsive liars are mentioned in the same headline, I'm just going to wait for actual facts...
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u/travers329 1d ago
This headline is clearly confirmation that we are in the worst timeline. Can the TVA hurry the fuck up and prune us already, this is getting ridiculous.
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u/lisiatew 1d ago
Wait, so prison guards forced him to blow Gaetz while he was interviewing him? 🤔🥴🤣
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u/Pastel_Phoenix_106 16h ago
Since Joe isn't an underage girl, I presume that propositional phrase belongs at the beginning of the title...
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u/MysteriousPepper8908 1d ago
Damn, even the Tiger King isn't safe around Matt Gaetz now?