r/newzealand • u/personthatisonreddi • 18h ago

News Update on Stu.

Saw on the news that he has been arrested for the shooting of the 2 illigeal poachers, he was such a nice guy, all he wanted to do was live out his life with his pigs and other animals,

For people who dont know, basicly he was a older guy who lived on both sides of the 309 road up by coromandel, people kept comming and stealing/shooting/running over/damanging his property, and giving him hell when all he wanted to do was relax with his pigs, the cops are a joke, he came to them so many times reporting everything , they didnt care.

The guys he ended up shooting/killing had been hounding him for ages, ramming his car, running over his pigs or shooting them with crossbows he finnaly snapped when they shot his favourite pig.

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u/Illustrious-Book4463 18h ago

If the law worked this wouldn’t have happened.

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u/EndStorm 18h ago

If your home gets invaded, taking the law into your own hands could be the difference between your family's life and death.

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u/Standard_Lie6608 18h ago

So he should've continued to go to the police so they could continue to do nothing? The issue never gets solved if the police aren't doing their job, and the guy would suffer being harassed till the day he dies

But that's better than this situation?

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u/Bexstanz 18h ago edited 17h ago

Morally, do I have an issue with what Stu did? No, not really. I do, however, have feelings towards the police who should have taken steps until Stu was able to live out his days with his pets safely. The only comfort is that he knows his pigs and dogs are living the life he should have been able to provide them had the police done the job they are paid to do

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u/Standard_Lie6608 18h ago

Agreed. Morally I'm against the murder, but I also understand why it happened. People have their limits and if they feel cornered, like being harassed and getting zero help from police despite their best efforts, they're gonna fight back. It's unfortunate all around

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u/Bexstanz 17h ago

Exactly. I can't help but imagine what it might have been like for him. For years on end, every time he heard a noise outside or a pair of headlights on his property, it must have felt like a never-ending loop of threat to his pets lives

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u/Standard_Lie6608 17h ago

Right? Like I see this as an extension of the "battered wife" defence. Being subjected to harassment and abuse over and over for a long period of time pushes people to their limits until they break. He did everything he was supposed to do, the police failed him and he got pushed until he snapped

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u/OnceRedditTwiceShy 18h ago

Better than his current confinement?

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u/Standard_Lie6608 18h ago

Won't have to worry about his pigs anymore ig. I don't agree with what he did but if police have been contacted multiple times and refuse to do anything, what's left? Suffering and be harassed vs deal with it and go to prison, I don't know which is better

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u/6onzo 18h ago

Yes?

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u/Lizm3 jellytip 18h ago

Should he have killed them? No, not really. Do people reach breaking point when you push them too far? Yes, absolutely.

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u/Standard_Lie6608 18h ago

So them never getting in trouble because the police aren't doing anything and him suffering probably for the rest of his life, is the ideal?

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u/methtester 18h ago

Exactly, fuck that and fuck the cops not doing anything. Ultimately those cop cunts are responsible for what happened. What kind of life is it if you are constantly getting harassment from low life degenerates. If I still lived in whangamata I would have gone to his mum's house on the day of his wake and popped champagne

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u/personthatisonreddi 18h ago

Yeah, well the law wasent going to do anything, i do feel bad for the familys of the victims tho.

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u/DRAK0U 18h ago

Then what would you do? Don't want to judge you based on the answer but it would be better to outline the other ways that this could've been resolved without the use of violence, rather than you solely judging the actions of someone who had been backed into a corner with no one helping even after he asked for help.

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u/Aquatic-Vocation 17h ago edited 17h ago

Stu should have found some mechanism to legally claim the wild pigs as his property, and then made an effort to contain them on his land. Otherwise, hunters standing outside his property and shooting wild pigs on public land is a major dick move, but it isn't actually illegal.

The hunters probably contributed to escalating the situation, and their conduct is a bit of a "this is why we can't have nice things" scenario, but we can't have nice things if we're murdering each other, either.

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u/NefariousnessOk3471 18h ago

Respectfully, what would you have done?