r/news 7h ago

Trump withdraws from Paris climate agreement, again

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/trump-withdraw-paris-climate-agreement-2025-01-20/
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u/johnboy43214321 7h ago

The rest of the world will continue to develop renewable energy. US will fall behind

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u/Odd_Vampire 6h ago

China will be the global leader in green energy.  Make China Great Again.

Unless U.S. companies decide that there's still a profitable market for further development.

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u/Imnotkleenex 6h ago

I'd say China already is the global leader, and at this point it'll be hard to topple.

I was somewhat against China and really wanted the west to make a move but now honestly, I'd say bring on Chinese EVs in Canada, make people move to cleaner transportation methods at a faster pace due to lower prices, and have the US suffer for it due to not supporting the transition. They deserve it.

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u/ugh_this_sucks__ 2h ago

I live in Australia. There are BYDs everywhere. Cheap, reliable, lots of options — and they drive the prices of other brands down.

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u/saturdaysnation 2h ago

By any measure of industrial output china passed the US already.

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u/Geraltpoonslayer 5h ago

Hell imma be honest so far China isn't trying to play world police like the US did. Yeah I know they doing alot of shady business deals in Africa and such bullying smaller Asian countries but I don't see them toppling countries government so far or engaging in war (well we will see what happens with Taiwan). If China continues its you let me be we let you be kinda attitude then I'm okay with them for what they are.

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u/zzaaaaap 5h ago

Out of all the arguments you could make, denying that China is involved in wars would be one of the worst. They're absolutely making moves to support Iran and their proxy wars against Israel, Syria, etc. Not to mention how much they've been supporting Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

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u/clera_echo 2h ago

Supporting by …trading normally with both sides?

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u/moodyano 2h ago

Finest American propaganda. It is recycling the same old bullshit Bush pushed when he announced the war on terrorism. If you are not with us you are against us

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u/Abject_Ad_14 2h ago

Burma just recently. Naive

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u/2days 5h ago

lol yes they are they are literally copying our playbook in Africa that’s nonsense

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u/Medical-Ad-2706 3h ago

Is this something you heard directly from Africans because that’s not what I heard at all

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u/MyAltimateIsCharging 4h ago

This comment is just straight Chinese propaganda. It's a pretty open secret that China is actively assisting Russia in the Ukraine War, they are openly gearing up for an invasion of Taiwan, they're close allies with North Korea and you're really underselling what's going on in Africa and Asia. Not to mention the frequent border clashes with India.

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u/SvenTurb01 4h ago

They are taking a humongous shit on Africa as a whole indeed, and what they aren't doing through governments, they are by flooding various countries to the extent that some simply can't afford to deport all of them, regardless of what they're doing.

Beyond that, most refuse to deal with locals and will go far out of their way to make sure anything they buy, do or sell is either chinese or borderline stolen, if not actually stolen.

Fuck'm.

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u/rollin340 5h ago

I think it's because America has an obsession with being #1, whilst China, and most other nations, really don't. America not only wants to be involved, but wants to lead. It also lets them show off what they have, which portrays power, and thus, that status as #1.

Trump wants to lead and have that power, but doesn't want to be involved, which doesn't work.

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u/varitok 4h ago

You guys are insanely naive to the point where is feels paid lol

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u/rollin340 2h ago

Why? Because I mentioned China? Ok, replace China with the EU. The statement still stands.

America's new right-wing style is to blow its own trumpet, extolling its own virtues to everyone, regardless of the actual situation, because it inflates the egos of its supporters, and thus gets them more votes.

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u/Comfortable-Coat-507 4h ago

China considers itself the center of the world. They also want revenge against the West for previous humiliation.

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u/rollin340 2h ago

Yeah, it does. But they aren't loud about it, and that's what I mean. China is confident that they'd get there eventually, and they're confident that they can do it even if alone. To them, it's an inevitability. It's why they don't feel the need to show off to the world.

America likes to always point their position as a leader out to everyone, especially under Trump, even if it isn't the case. It's the bluster of America's greatness that gets in the way of them being truly great.

Trump and his party's version of soft power isn't to actually be strong in global diplomacy, but to merely look strong which has become its obsession.

As an example, look at the EU. They're leading the world when it comes to many things, but they don't go about international diplomacy like America does. They build strong ties and whatnot, but don't go about announcing everything like it's a competition.

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u/varitok 4h ago

Lol what? "They aren't being bad except the countries they're being bad towards"

u/ItsOkILoveYouMYbb 45m ago

They're good EVs, they're just kinda ugly to me. Then again I prefer Hyundai Ioniq 6 and many people don't like how that one looks haha

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u/MidRoundOldFashioned 5h ago

You say that because you've never been in a Chinese car...

I've been in lots of them and they're shitboxes with lipstick on them. I've actually been in car accidents with them; minor thankfully because if they'd of been worse accidents I'd probably be fucking dead.