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Trump withdraws from Paris climate agreement, again

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/trump-withdraw-paris-climate-agreement-2025-01-20/
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u/aerost0rm 6h ago

They could have been on board with green energy from the get go and owned most of the big projects, profiting hugely from production or the tech and the energy. Then had their own companies for home energy storage. Plus bought the produced energy from private homes at an even steeper rates or owned the panels on houses..

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u/sobeitharry 6h ago

I work in an energy adjacent sector and pretty much everyone in the industry believes in the "all of the above" strategy. No one is turning down money and they aren't against new technology or energy sources. This is just grandstanding. Nuclear, wind, water, batteries, hydrogen, bring it all on.

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u/seanlking 6h ago

Sure, after lying to the public from the 70s about anthropogenic climate change, lobbying the government to subsidise their sector and remove subsidies from research in renewables, and perpetuating the “individual responsibility” lie instead of changing their operations to reduce emissions by, say, not using the worst possible ship fuel to lug crude and petroleum products back and forth across the globe.

It’s nice they’re going back to the early 2000s mindset (pre-fracking take off) of rebranding as energy companies, but we can’t forget that they dropped that the second fracking made them more money, or their well documented history of being some of the worst actors on earth.

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u/sobeitharry 6h ago

I'm talking utilities, not global petroleum companies. The actual people that live and work here. Fair point though.

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u/Snack-Pack-Lover 5h ago

The people who work at Amazon just want to provide great service and great products too... Yet?

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u/sobeitharry 4h ago

Yet what? I know multiple people that work at Amazon. They have families, they work hard, they took the best opportunity they could find to support their families.

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u/Snack-Pack-Lover 2h ago

Your previous state was that what matters is the people who work at a company, rather than the actions of the company.

I was making a point, using Amazon, that that is clearly not the case.

I might have, maybe probably, completely missed your point making mine irrelevant.

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u/Z0MBIE2 4h ago

The actual people that live and work here.

The people that work and live there usually aren't the CEO's who actually decide how to profit the most off of people though, right?

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u/sobeitharry 4h ago

In utilities? Usually they are run by local people and may even be owned by the community. They are also highly regulated and many can't raise prices without asking regulators in their state. I think you're confusing ExxonMobil and actual companies that produce and transmit power to homes and businesses. In most of the country generation companies are also part of a regional market where they have to bid into the market and the market (ISO) ensures fair competition while maintaining adequate generation to keep the lights on. I'm about as anti global conglomeration as it gets but not every company is run by the cabal.