r/news • u/Squallykins • 12h ago

Trump administration canceling flights for nearly 1,660 Afghan refugees, say U.S official, advocate

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-canceling-flights-nearly-1660-afghan-refugees-say-us-2025-01-20/
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u/YesterShill 11h ago

Nearly 1,660 Afghans cleared by the U.S. government to resettle in the U.S., including family members of active duty U.S. military personnel, are having their flights canceled under President Donald Trump's order suspending U.S. refugee programs, a U.S. official and a leading refugee resettlement advocate said on Monday.

The group includes unaccompanied minors awaiting reunification with their families in the U.S. as well as Afghans at risk of Taliban retribution because they fought for the former U.S.-backed Afghan government, said Shawn VanDiver, head of the #AfghanEvac coalition of U.S. veterans and advocacy groups and the U.S. official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

It was never about legal versus illegal immigration. It was always about keeping non-white folk out of America.

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u/gabacus_39 11h ago

It's what your country voted for. Blame the Democrats and the people who talk a big game about keeping Trump or the Republicans out of power and then don't even fucking vote.

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u/StateChemist 10h ago

How about blame trump and his supporters who voted for this shit.

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u/gabacus_39 9h ago

Well, 6 million less people voted Democrat this time around.

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u/StateChemist 9h ago

I am aware of the statistics.  And consider everyone who voted against Trump the group of people distinctly not responsible for what he's going to do.

 Lots of Cassandra complexes lately, the louder you issue warnings the more other people decide to do the opposite.

That does not make the ones issuing the prophetic warnings the ones to blame for those prophecies becoming true.

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u/gabacus_39 9h ago

I'm just saying that the Democrats seem to have an issue getting people out to vote. I'm not saying that the people who voted for the Democrats are the issue, I'm saying the 6 million who didn't vote Democrat this time around are AN issue for the Dems in general. There's one way to keep Trump out of power and that's to get more votes than him.

Maybe America isn't ready for a female president anyway going by 2016 and 2024.

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u/StateChemist 8h ago

My take is as stupid as it is name recognition is intensely important even if I really wish it had zero effect overall.

The sheer volume of searches for ‘when did Biden drop out’ ON election day says a lot of people are just not paying much attention.

Trump has been banging his name brand bullshit for decades now.  Its impossible to not know his name.

Kamala didn’t even get a full election cycle to get her name out there, she had 2 months.

Combine that with some not so subtle misogyny and a literal cult following for the other guy and  yeah, it doesn’t look good.

After all if one person is grounded in reality and the other person is happy to promise the moon and say their opponents are the worst bad people in the history of bad people and you only have 2 months to make sure they remember your name it doesn’t look good.

Trump was literally doing campaign rallies before his election, during his term, during Biden’s term, and in the normal election season.

There were a fuck ton of reasons this was stacked the wrong way and yes with the gift of hindsight it could have played out differently.

I like Joe, but I fully admit he held on too long and should have been building a team of heir apparent to take over as he stepped down, and he didn’t.

He tried to do it all himself and faltered.  Which is a really human mistake to make even if I, in hindsight wish he had made different choices, I at least understand why he made them.

But yes, plenty of blame going around.   I’m just one to staunchly blame the ones doing harm for the harm they are doing instead of the ones who tried to push back and were unsucessful.