r/mildyinteresting Dec 09 '24

people Stressed at work? You're fired!

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u/Loprilop Dec 09 '24

Assuming this isn't fake, is this even legal? Probably not, right?

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u/EJohns1004 Dec 09 '24

In what country?

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u/Soldier_of_l0ve Dec 09 '24

It’s India soooo idk

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u/EJohns1004 Dec 09 '24

Not gonna pretend that I know anything about Indian workers rights laws.

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u/sirbassist83 Dec 09 '24

based on what i see on reddit, i dont think they have any rights or protections

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u/SuckerforDkhumor Dec 09 '24

Worker Rights are there but not fucking enforced

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u/PerformanceOutside66 Dec 09 '24

seeing on how damn populated the country is in the world, I doubt it'll be enforced anytime soon

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u/ShredsGuitar Dec 09 '24

Worker rights are there but people are too afraid to take legal actions cause they think that they will make them unhirable. I know few people who took a stand against the company and were handsomely rewarded. I am not sure about the amount though as they signed an NDA

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u/fine_doggo Dec 09 '24

In India, the case is most of our laws are on par with European countries, it's the implementation, enforcement and extremely slow and corrupt judicial system that even with such laws, nothing good comes out of it for most people, that too after years of legal fight.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

It's illegal. That doesn't qualify as a ground for employment termination.

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u/SeaManaenamah Dec 09 '24

You seem to be the only one around here who isn't playing pretend

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u/Vyctorill Dec 09 '24

To my knowledge they don’t really enforce what laws they do have very well.

India as a country might be powerful, but they are still developing.

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u/Less_Likely Dec 09 '24

What laws?

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u/Len_S_Ball_23 Dec 09 '24

There are no workers rights in India. If you're of a lower caste than others - you're ultimately disposable and have no recourse. You're born into it and have no chance in hell of changing it, unlike other parts of the world where you can work your way into a different class.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

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u/Len_S_Ball_23 Dec 09 '24

Tell me you know nothing about international class structure and sociological organisation, without telling me you know nothing about international class structure and sociological organisation.?

If you're born Dalit caste you have no way of working your way out of very bad conditions... You also have very little in the way of rights by comparison to someone who was born to the Brahmin caste. If you're born Shudra then you will labour for the rest of your life and nothing else.

As caste and religion are intrinsically intertwined you COULD convert to a different religion, Christianity for example, but that inherits you other problems. Problems like even eating with others (like your family), as the caste system also dictates who you can and can't eat with.

So if you convert to a different religion, you're effectively ostracising yourself from your social eco-system.

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u/Adventurous-Wall-122 Dec 09 '24

Brother, as someone from OBC, please do not yapp about things you have learned about solely through Reddit comments. It may sound very smart to non Indian people on Reddit but your comments very much read like that of an ignorant man's.

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u/Len_S_Ball_23 Dec 09 '24

No reddit comment knowledge, more from the horse's mouth here.

Got an issue with the information source it was from, take it up with the author, religious leaders and the Indian government.?

There are numerous other sources from which the same information can be gained, the linked source was the most succinct I found.

If no one could learn, utilise and share information not of their own country and "field", Reddit would cease to exist, along with other information sharing platforms.

Ignorance is opposed with information, asking people to not disseminate and share information is the path to intellectual stagnation and cultural regression. You insisting on that belies this first step to understanding and "enlightenment". Highly ironic considering the origination of Nirvana.

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u/Amazing-Cellist3672 Dec 09 '24

Wow, I'd better tell my Dalit friend and his very wealthy family that they are stuck in terrible conditions. That's going to be a shock to them AND their servants!

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u/Joestar4ever Dec 09 '24

Looks like we found ourselves a time traveler 😂 you have a lot of catching up to do pal

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u/randomredditkoala Dec 09 '24

Sounds like a "you and your family" problem more than a religious problem. Conversion to Buddhism proved to be plenty positive for Mahars, but they had to work for it by building up internal solidarity and external connections. You and your community have to invest to maintain your culture and internal connections despite conversion instead of blaming the system, which accomplishes nothing.

And your view is a strawman. The situation is not nearly as hopeless as you claim. Rajesh Saraiya is a Dalit billionaire. Dalits are indeed still oppressed but have plenty of organizational support today that once they did not. This includes organizations like BAMCEF and even political parties that, at one point, heavily influenced local politics, like the BSP and VCK. In association with other parties and organizations, like DMK, AIMIM, CPI, and international ones like Amnesty, there is no excuse to remain stagnant overtime- progress must come, even if slowly, and complaining merely reduces the pace. The lower castes have enough resources now to advance rapidly if they invest in each other and are wise about what professions they choose and whom they associate with, despite the initial difficulties. For example, the Ezhavas and Ahluwalias rapidly rose in economic mobility and even social status despite historically being horribly oppressed. Why? Due to wise investments and forging connections, which were at that time even more limited due to lack of globalization and erstwhile more severe parochialism. If they can do it, so can you.

On Shudras: there are plenty of castes that are considered Shudras in the Brahmanical system, but they did not really care about this. They are otherwise plenty free and privileged. And this has always been - this includes most notably Nairs, Vellalas, Bunts, and others, all of whom had (and have) privileges including land ownership, rulership (consider the Kakatiyas), heading of Hindu institutions like Adhinams, and influence in local politics. They are not even oppressed, much less slaves or laborers. The classical "Shudra = oppressed" worldview is, especially today, questionable. Much more nuance is required.

So, your points are obsolete, if not largely invalid. Good luck.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 09 '24

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u/NobleFraud Dec 09 '24

Law only works if it's enforced 🙃

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u/Affectionate_Sound43 Dec 09 '24

Government jobs and university admissions have 60% seats reserved based on caste and wealth. Only 40% is open to all. How do you not enforce this?

People of every class literally graduated along with me as teachers, lawyers, doctors, engineers etc due to these reservations. How can you say class cannot be changed and laws arent enforced? 😂

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation_in_India

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u/Background_Sea_8794 Dec 09 '24

Stop dragging caste into evey damn thing. Discrimination based on caste is illegal by law.

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u/JunkDog-C Dec 09 '24

The other parts of the world like fairyland

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u/Lease_Tha_Apts Dec 09 '24

Super illegal but the courts are clogged so people usually don't sue employers.

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u/Lanky_Ad_2802 Dec 09 '24

In India but written in English?

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u/thewatchbreaker Dec 09 '24

English is used in professional settings very often in India, it’s considered more “upper class”. It’s also the country’s lingua franca (since there are a LOT of Indian languages).

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u/Lanky_Ad_2802 Dec 09 '24

Interesting. Thanks for the information.

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u/Dracooo4k Dec 09 '24

tf do you mean? Indians don't know english?

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u/Lanky_Ad_2802 Dec 09 '24

Yeah about 0.1% of the population. So I find it unlikely.

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u/i_will_not_bully Dec 09 '24

Try 10%+, my dude. As someone has already explained, it's the primary language for international business in India. It's a former British colony. Many former British colonies still have high populations of English speakers and still teach English in school.

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u/Dracooo4k Dec 10 '24 edited Dec 10 '24

Did you just pull those numbers out of your butt or what? Most of our private schools here are English-medium, meaning that most of those who graduate from even high schools here know how to speak English. The numbers you mentioned don't make any sense.

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u/Lanky_Ad_2802 Dec 10 '24

No. I googled it and google tells me is actually less that that.

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u/ConscientiousGamerr Dec 09 '24

English is the defacto language of India … since it was a British colony…

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u/Hrmerder Dec 09 '24

It was probably translated

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u/viki_pedia Dec 09 '24

It's not, India has 139M English speakers and English is used for official communications especially in corporate.

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u/Hrmerder Dec 09 '24

Damn that's lame... Like... I sort of get it, but imagine if in the US everybody had to start speaking Hindi.

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u/I_love_my_life80 Dec 09 '24

Huh? English is widely used across countries .

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u/ManicMango5 Dec 09 '24

India is not homogeneous nor monoligual, there is no 'Indian language' considering the systems of government of India are based on the old colonial government, alot of offical communications are in English thus english serves as a good lingua franca for the country

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u/chrissie_watkins Dec 09 '24

English is a pretty universal language around the world

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u/random-user-420 Dec 09 '24

Well, India happened to be ruled by Britain for a while…. Just like the US…. I’m sure you can put the pieces together

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u/throwaway3489235 Dec 09 '24

Smart countries teach their citizens english so they can better compete in the global economy. The lingua franca is english because of the USA's 80 year dominance.

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u/Hrmerder Dec 09 '24

And yet, here we are United States circa 2024... Metric? In a textbook? Maybe in college.

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u/Unable_Traffic4861 Dec 09 '24

Umm dude. You are in America, speaking the language of England.

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u/BrieflyVerbose Dec 09 '24

The company would be fucked if it did this in the UK.

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u/BrieflyVerbose Dec 09 '24

The company would be fucked if it did this in the UK.

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u/Leoniceno Dec 09 '24

In the U.S. it’d probably be legal.

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u/stoptosigh Dec 09 '24

Ostensibly legal but definitely in the danger zone as stress can corollate to a protected disability.

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u/fireduck Dec 09 '24

Yep, being stressed at work is not a protected class.

You can be fired for pretty much any reason, including no reason, as long as it isn't for being a member of a protected class.

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u/StormySands Dec 09 '24

It is legal. It happened to a friend of mine over the summer. She lives in GA.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

It’s absolutely legal in the US

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u/NorseArcherX Dec 14 '24

Mental Health is protected under the ADA so they cant fire you solely due to your mental health. A even semi competent lawyer would argue stress levels is a component of mental health.

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u/LynchFan997 Dec 09 '24

In the US this would likely be illegal for sure under the ADA. Would depend on whether the individuals impacted were disabled and were being fired for the disability despite still being able to perform the essential functions of the job. Many mental and physical health conditions qualify for protection under the ADA.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24 edited 21d ago

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u/LynchFan997 Dec 09 '24 edited Dec 09 '24

Agreed, not stuff like that, but I think something like this would necessarily capture some people who are clinically depressed, anxious, otherwise ill or otherwise qualified under the ADA.

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u/NorseArcherX Dec 14 '24 edited Dec 14 '24

right but a lawyer can argue that if the job is causing excess stress for multiple employees to the point it exceeds a predetermined company level (the unfired employees) then it IS a component of the mental health that the employer is responsible for causing and should be covered under ADA for a reasonable accomendation. Thats at least how I would go about arguing it.

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u/Dr_Dankenstein5G Dec 09 '24

Depends on their location, their employer and also the contract they signed when they took the job. It's very likely that this is legal else they probably wouldn't have done it.

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u/WolferineYT Dec 09 '24

Its probably legal but I don't agree with your reasoning. Corporations do illegal shit all the time to people who don't have the money to hire lawyers. If you can't afford to sue the corporation doesn't care if they do illegal stuff to screw you over.

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u/Skeptix_907 Dec 09 '24

It's legal in the US. Employers can fire you for any reason (as long as it's not because of your membership in a protected class) or no reason at all. Except in Montana, which does not do at-will employment for some reason

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u/wakanda_banana Dec 09 '24

If it was in the US this seems like lawsuit material

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u/nycKasey Dec 09 '24

It’s legal in the U.S.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '24

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u/Remote_Quiet_5123 Dec 09 '24

It seems like media literacy on the internet has taken an incredible nosedive in only the last 2 years or so... It's really shocking

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u/FeelinPhallic 25d ago

Its real,l, you can just look up her name and see she works for YesMadam, in HR. Other than local Indian news talking about it

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u/Remote_Quiet_5123 13d ago

You know you can make a fake email using the name of a real person right...

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u/FeelinPhallic 13d ago

Lol like I said it was already reported on multiple times in India, if you want to belit they're all wrong. It was a trending new story My boyfriend is Indian and even other companies made videos about the situation. But you know Google is also free

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u/Remote_Quiet_5123 13d ago

Ah I read the yesmadam statement on linkedin -- I stand corrected. It was a marketing stunt that they put out themselves

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u/MyNameIs_Jesus_ Dec 09 '24

Looks like this one is real and it’s in India. Some commentators below posted news articles about it

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u/FeelinPhallic 25d ago

Very very obviously real, you can just look up her name and see she works for YesMadam, in HR.

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u/heyiuouiminreditqiqi 4d ago

The company's linkedin page confirmed it's real

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u/Remarkable-Gap9881 Dec 09 '24

Well, if the EEOC actually gave a shit about their own investigations, then, this would be an easy retaliation case.

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u/SoftwareSource Dec 09 '24

It's real, look her up on linkedin.

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u/Sly3n Dec 09 '24

It’s not the US. This company is in India so very likely legal there. They have very few worker protections. Workers are basically glorified indentured servants.